The ignorant always thinks what he knows is truth and he always indulges in pursuit of an argument.+

People's observation is based on a dualistic (form, time, and space) perspective, whereas Gnani's judgment is based on the nondualistic (Soul or consciousness) perspective.  What is the use of discussing the karma, which takes place within the unreal world? Instead,  one has to find how this world is unreal (illusion). 

 In the Atmic discussion, the form, time, and space (universe) are merely an illusion.  Karma is possible within the scope of the experience of the form, time, and space (universe).

That is why Sage Goudpada said:~ The merciful Veda teaches karma and Upasana to people of lower and middling intellect, while Jnana is taught to those of higher intellect.

Thus, Sage Goudpada suggests that the religious paths and worship of the guru and conceptual god are lower and middling intellect.  But in this modern world,  people are sharp enough to understand and assimilate the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. Thus, for people who want the higher truth, then it is high time to discard the lower knowledge and move ahead to realize the ultimate truth, which is Brahman or God.  

That is why Sage Sankara says:~ VC- 65~As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it, and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

66. Therefore, the wise should, as in the case of disease and the like, personally strive by all the means in their power to be free from the bondage of repeated births and deaths.

When one realizes the fact that, the whole universe and its contents, movable and immovable, are known to be the consciousness, and thus the existence of everything else is negated, there is then no room to say that the universe is the universe. The universe and its contents are also consciousness.  Thus, consciousness alone is real and eternal. 

The one who says he is already enlightened is ignorant. The person who says I am enlightened is unaware of the fact that the Self is not he, because he and his experience of the world are the product of ignorance. Only the ignorant say he is already enlightened.  Without Advaitic wisdom, ignorance will not vanish.

The one which says ‘I am enlightened’ itself is the ego. The one who feels it is he or she is also the ego.  The ego is the false self (you or waking entity) within the false experience (waking).  The ego, body, and the world appear together and disappear together.   It is a foolish venture to try to destroy the ego because the ego is the very basis of physical existence (the universe in, which we exist). 

Remember:~

The discussion is possible only in the domain of duality.  The words are only for communication purposes.  There is no second thing that exists because everything is the Spirit. That means the thoughts, the words, and the world in which we exist are also nothing but the Spirit.  But when the spirit alone is, how can " duality " remain? Only the Spirit remains, not duality. But there is no other way to express it. The Spirit is always there, only the transient ‘duality’  comes and goes.

Suppose the same subject, if we are discussing in the dream and one asks the same questions in the dream, then whatever we are discussing in the dream becomes unreal, when the waking takes place. Whatever we are discussing now, we are discussing it within the waking experience. The waking is unreal on the base of the formless witness, which is the Soul, which is the Spirit.

The words may give different meanings at different levels of understanding. As one moves deeper and deeper one realizes the thought, the thinker, words, and the world are one in essence. Thus in the realm of truth, the thought and words become meaningless. 

When one who has realized that which lies beyond form, time and space does not give importance to thoughts and words which have value only in falsehood. 

The reality is beyond thoughts and words. The words have meaning in duality. Duality exists until the mind exists. The mind exists where there is a division of form, time, and space. If there is no division of form, time, and space, then there is no mind. Words are used as a tool to name individual objects and feelings within the duality.

The words become meaningless when one becomes aware of the formless substance of the mind, which is consciousness.  

Consciousness is the real Self. From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the mind is merely an illusion. 

If the mind is merely an illusion, then form, time, and space are merely an illusion.

If form, time, and space are merely an illusion then the thoughts and words that arise within the scope of form, time, and space are also part and parcel of that illusion.

Thus, the body, ego, words, thoughts, and whatever the contents of the universe are within the illusion created out of the single stuff that is the consciousness. 

Thus,  it is necessary to know 'What is the nature of the mind?' and 'What is the substance of the mind?' and 'What is the source of the mind?', to realize the words are meaningless in the realm of truth.

The world is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.

People's approach is more practical, and they stuck with the reality of the world, they take it as real. That is why all the confusion.

That is why Sage Sankara says: ~ VC-63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the Self, how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.

VC~ 65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it, and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

The ignorant is always egocentric. He thinks what he knows is the truth. He always indulges in pursuit of an argument. The Ignorant is sentimentalized to his belief system. An ignorant person just to prove that he is correct and others are wrong because the ignorant presumes he already knows and wants to see whether others know or not.

The ignorant person provokes others to snub them. Ignorant accumulates knowledge and tries to show his intellectual wealth. Such intellectual sharing of knowledge is mere garbage. It is of no use in pursuit of truth. Because they are egocentric based on ignorance thus they will not yield any truth.:~Santthosh Kumaar