Friday, September 12, 2014

Sage Sankara says: - Yoga is not the means of liberation.+



Buddha gave up yoga after practicing it for six years. He saw it could not yield truth.
Buddha gave up his austerities of yoga as impossible and useless. Thus Buddha got enlightenment only after he gave up Yoga. (Page.70/71 "Buddhism In Translation” by Warren)
Unless one exercise his Buddhi--reason--there is no chance of getting the ultimate truth or Brahman
Buddhism has not proved the truth of Nonduality. Buddha pointed out the unreality of the world, we agree. He told people they were foolish to cling to it. But he stopped there. He came nearest to Vedanta in speech, but not to Vedanta fully.
Only when we independently search the truth without the religion and its doctrine, then we will be able to realize the truth beyond form, time, and space. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
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  • Sandip Jadhav Pardon me, Sir! But the statement - "Yoga is useless and impossible" would be too undermined to be wise. Wouldn't it?



  • Santthosh Kumaar Sage Sankara said:~Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works, nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way.(1) VivekaChudamani v 56, pg 25
  • Santthosh Kumaar Lord Krishna confesses that the oldest wisdom of India (our true Advaita philosophy) has been lost: people misinterpret and falsify it today as they did then. It is not yoga, but philosophic truth. But nobody knows it. The teachers of philosophy and leaders of mysticism or religion do not want to inquire into the truth and have no time for it. (Gita –Chap- IV-v.2) 


    In Gita Chap.IV where Lord Krishna says :- "This yoga has been lost for ages" the word yoga refers to Gnana yoga, not other yogas: the force of the word this is to point this out. 

    Lord Krishna describes some of the other yogas but devotes this chapter separately to Gnana Yoga. So one sees even in those ancient days people did not care for Advaita; they wanted religion; hence, Gnana got lost.

  • Santthosh Kumaar The essence of Mundaka is: Do not be satisfied with rituals, yoga, etc. which are good in their own way, but inquire. Into what? Brahman and Atman are things you can never see. So do not inquire into them. Inquire into the world around you, which you can see. Science tells you it is passing away every second. Everything is dying repeatedly. Where is it going? Thus, you follow up your inquiry into what you can lay hands on. How can you inquire into Atma which you cannot see? So first we deal with the known and seen, this inquiry leads up to the unknown in the end.

  • Sandip Jadhav I agree with all of the above references as a matter of fact. I am not talking about Yoga as a set of physical practices nor I am talking of the norms now and then. Although there are various schools of Yoga, Yoga itself is based on the purpose. And whatever fulfills the purpose, it becomes Yoga.




  • Santthosh Kumaar I respect your views and wisdom.

    As per my conviction:~ 
    Yoga is based on the body as the Self. deeper investigation reveals the fact that the self is not the body. Therefore the body-based practices will not yield truth. Yoga has in its own value in practical life within the practical world. But yoga is nothing to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman. 
    The path of wisdom is nothing to do with yoga and religion. The path of religion, the theory of karma, the yogic path and the path of wisdom were intended for different classes of people. The wisdom is for the advanced seekers of truth. It deals with the nature of the ultimate Truth and Reality. It is meant for superior aspirants who have the inner urge to know the truth and it is not for those who are immersed in the earthly desires.
    As per the scriptures, the three "Ashrams" or stages in life were originally intended for three grades of intelligence thus:

    Religion: low intellects had to do 'karmas' works, ritual actions, chanting of mantras and indulging in Bajans and prayers, etc.

    Middle intellects: Yoga: taking yellow robes, going to caves, ashrams, etc.

    High intellects: wisdom who wanted truth is concerned with no external rites or sannyasa but depend solely on the intelligent inquiry for their path.

    Sage Sankara says: - Yoga is not the means of liberation (page 132-133 - Commentary on Brihadaranyakopanishad.

    In Sutra Bashya and Manduka: - The Samadhi and sleep are identical. 

    Brihad Upanishad does not advocate Samadhi.

    Sage Sankara in the commentary to "Brahma Sutras: - " "The highest beatitude is not to be attained by Yoga." (Sacred Books of East Series page 298 Vol.1.) And he also says Samadhi is the same as sleep (p.312) ---this indicates that yoga is not the means to self-realization. 

    Yoga can yield the only duality, because everything that one can do or practice becomes a vanishing 'known.' It yields relative truth based on imagination, which is true from the physical viewpoint of view, not non-dual truth, which is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

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