Tuesday, June 30, 2015

Sage Goudpada says: that whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis is unreal.+



Sage Goudpada says:  that whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis is unreal.

The Gurus say scriptures say “Brahman = I" is an error because the ‘Self’ is not the ‘I’.    If the scriptures say ‘I’ wasn’t there it means there is no ‘I’.  Thus, do not hold ‘I’ as the ’Self’.   Do not use the word ‘I’, for the ‘Self’ because the ‘Self’ is the witness of the ‘I’.  

What is it that appears as the ‘I’ and disappears as the ‘I-less? It is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not make the mistake of holding the ‘I’ as the Self because it is not permanent. ‘I’ disappears and becomes ‘I’-less.  The ‘I’ disappears as I-LESS.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the truth of the whole. The ‘I’ is an object to the Soul, which is the formless subject.

The earliest ancient sages used the word ‘I’ to the witness of the three states not to the ego as moderns use it and think the ‘I’ without the body is the Self. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the Self, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true Self, which is eternal. 

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, You are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers. 

Remember:~

Sage Sankara said: ~ Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many Gods as you please, observe ceremonies, and sing devotional hymns, but the liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.
No religious God can exist apart from the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

All the religious Gods with form and attributes cease to exist without the dualistic illusion.

People are not aware of the fact that there is no individual God can exist, apart from the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

The Soul is the Self.   If there is no Soul, then there is no physical body, no ego, no world in which you exist,   no religion, and no religious Gods. 

People think that there must be a creator of this universe. If one thinks the Self is ‘I’   then there is a creator, but if one thinks the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, then there is nothing that exists other than consciousness.

If one objectifies and sees a universe, then he is bound to see many things besides himself and postulate a God, the creator.

You, your body, and the world in which you exist rise and set together from, and into, the Soul or the consciousness.

If God is apart from the Soul, the ‘Self’, then God would be selfless, that is, outside existence, that is, non-existent. 

No one has seen God creating the world. No one can claim that it was the first Knower of the first created things.  How was that first ‘known’ substance generated?
There got to be at the very beginning of the creation of someone or other who was the very first knower of the creation.  There cannot be something ‘known’ in the absence of a ‘knower.’ 

If at all we said that there was a ‘Seen’ or ‘known’ substance produced at the beginning of creation, you may legitimately question us about its origin.  But that has never been our argument.  We are consistent in our assertion that there has been no legitimate cause behind anything ‘seen’ at the beginning of creation or even later on at any time.  Hence there is not a thing ‘seen.’  Because there has been not a thing seen, the consciousness is forever without bondage.  The consciousness cannot be captured in words.

How did the “I” originate? 

How did the world” originate? 

How does one know that he exists in this world?

There was no cause for the universe even at the very start.  So nothing ever is really born.  The entire universe is only an illusion. The universe in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.

What exists is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness only.   The consciousness cannot be expressed in words because it is the existence itself. It is eternal, self-effulgent, and unblemished. 

The illusion has no value.  The universe is the illusory nature of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Mentally reduce the universe into consciousness by realizing the universe is nothing but an illusion created out of consciousness.

There is no reason behind the illusion!   From the ultimate standpoint, there is no illusion at all!   Everything is nothing but consciousness.

You are still going by an attempt to establish a sequence of cause-effect relationships.  There has to be a touchstone that can establish the correctness or otherwise of the sequence of causes and effects.  If we examine based on that yardstick, the causes will evaporate. 

For example, doubt is the cause of a question.  The cause for the doubt is ignorance.  If we can get rid of ignorance, there is no scope for doubt and the later questions. So go on finding answers to your doubts on your own.  When all the questions are resolved, you will automatically land in and be at ease as consciousness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar 

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