Friday, May 10, 2013

Enter the kingdom of Advaita. Advaita means the one without the second.+




People talk of liberation or Moksha. They are only forming an idea. The idea is mere imagination. Imagination is possible only in ignorance.
People, who are so confused as to be unable mentally, separate the Soul from the dualistic illusion, speaking of gaining liberation.
All such idea of liberation is possible only in waking experience. The waking experience is a dualistic illusion.
The dualistic illusion appears and disappears.
The Soul is the formless witness of the appearance and disappearance of the dualistic illusion.
The Soul is caught up in the cage of the dualistic illusion.
It is the Soul that is in ignorance it is the Soul that has to wake up from the sleep of ignorance.
It is the Soul that is in the quest for itself.
It is not you who wants freedom.
It is the Soul, which wants to free itself from ignorance, which is the cause of experiencing the dualistic illusion as a reality.
The ‘Self’ is not you. Self-realization is necessary to realize the ‘Self’ is not you, but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
Consciousness is the cause of the world in which you exist and it, itself is uncaused.
When the world in which you exist is nothing but consciousness then the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.
Thus, stick to consciousness, which is the ultimate truth or Brahman, and mentally drop the illusory world in which you exist.
Enter the kingdom of Advaita. Advaita means the one without the second. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

WHO AM ‘I’ and ‘I AM THAT’ is only for a lower stage it helps only expose the false nature of the ego, which is not the full truth.+




The Man is misled by what confronts him or influenced by what he experiences. Man exists within the world. From the ultimate standpoint, the world is merely an illusion created out of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.   

Due to ignorance, man experiences duality as a reality, because man thinks of himself as Self and he experiences birth, life, death, and the world as a reality.  

Thus, Self-knowledge is necessary to realize the fact that, man and his experience of the world together is an illusion. And the soul is the innermost Self, is not part of the illusion.  The Soul is present in the form of consciousness is the formless substance and the witness of the illusion. The illusion is present as the mind (I) or the universe or waking experience. The illusion is an object to the formless soul, which is the subject. In reality,  the object and subject are one in essence. 

Many seekers in this path of inquiry are still struggling even after long years and waiting for something to happen. Even after reading and inquiring deeply enough, still, they are unable to progress further.  Even they are unable to get any benefit in their spiritual pursuit through self - inquiry they are unable to give up Self-inquiry due to the attraction of Sri, Ramana Maharishi. 

It is necessary for the seeker of truth to realize the fact that Self-awareness is not some mystical experience propagated by yogis. Self-awareness comes only from the Gnana or Nondualistic wisdom. 


 That is why Sage Sankara indicated: -VC -65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out of being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

Self-inquiry prescribed by Sri, Raman Maharshi helps only at the beginning of the pursuit of truth. But the seeker will find it inadequate in later stages. However, it creates lots of doubts and confusion.  The seeker has to find the answers on his own through deeper reasoning, then all his doubts and confusions will be cleared, and he will be able to move ahead in the path of inquiry, and he will be able to reach his non-dual destination.

When one is absorbed in thinking of anything, he forgets the subject, which is consciousness,  the innermost self, that which witnesses all the coming and going of the three states in succession.


One may think for a hundred hours continuously,  but it is all thoughts, hence not consciousness. But when one becomes aware the thinker and the thoughts are one is the essence, one does get consciousness, the knower, the formless witness of the three states. Consciousness the Self is eternal.


One has to get rid of his doubts, But that did not mean, simply going and believing everything he is told. The doubt is to be got rid of "by the sword of wisdom.


WHO AM ‘I’ and ‘I AM THAT’ is only for a lower stage where one gives up externally in order, exposing the false nature of the ego, which is not the full truth. To get the ultimate truth,  one has to inquire into the nature of the mind, which is in the form of the universe.  Inquiring into nature,   the mind or the universe is higher.  Thus,  ‘WHO AM ‘I’? and ‘I AM THAT’   will not reveal the truth of the whole,  thus the journey is incomplete.

 ‘WHO AM ‘I’ and ‘I AM THAT’ - teachings serve only at the starting point. What one has to learn from the teaching of the sages be understood through the exercise of reason as far as the reason might go.  And what one has assimilated must be realized. There are stages in the seeker's goal.

Self-awareness does not mean one is transforming something into something else. In self –awareness there is no second thing that exists other than consciousness in the midst of diversity.  The body and the world have become one in essence. 

There is no duality in the midst of duality.   There is not even the concept of real and unreal. Of course,  it does not mean that when one is involved in practical life within the practical world disappears. But in self-awareness one is consciously aware of ‘what truth’ is and ‘what is not the truth’ in the midst of duality because one sees his ego, his body,  and his experience of the world as consciousness.  

Thus, for a Gnani there is no second thing that exists other than consciousness, even though he is in the midst of diversity.   

Nothingness is an erroneous conclusion because every thought has its opposite every word is tied to its coordinate for all thought and speech can only operate under such dualism. Hence, taking the most fundamental word, existence, its implied opposite non-existence is also there, and vice versa. So the nothingness or “non-entity" is meaningless without "entity". Both are there.:~Santthosh Kumaar 


Thursday, May 9, 2013

Sage Sankara’s whole teaching can be summed up into one sentence:- There is nothing else but Brahman.+




Sage Sankara says:~ Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works, nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way(1) VivekaChudamani v 56, pg 25

But how does one have that realization? That is where Advaita and Advaita Vedanta diverge.

Sage Sankara goes on to say: ~A sickness of not cured by saying the word “medicine.” You must take the medicine. Liberation does not come by merely saying the word “Brahman.” Brahman must be experienced. Until you allow this apparent universe to dissolve from your consciousness until you have experienced Brahman, how can you find liberation just by saying the word Brahman? The result is merely noise. Until a man has destroyed his enemies and taken possession of the splendor and wealth of the kingdom, he cannot become a king by simply saying “I am a king.”

A buried treasure is not uncovered by merely uttering the words: “Come forth.” You must follow the right directions, dig, remove the stones and earth from above it, and then make it your own. In the same way, the pure truth of the Atman, which is buried under Maya and the effects of Maya, can be reached by meditation, contemplation, and other spiritual disciplines but never by subtle arguments. 

Ignorance will not vanish without Advaitic wisdom. It is not you who has to get rid of ignorance, because you and you and your experience of the world are the product of ignorance. The Soul, the Self is in ignorance of its own true nature. 
Only through Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, the Soul, the Self, awake from its sleep of ignorance.  When the soul remains in its own awareness of its own true nature, there is no division in the soul or consciousness, there is unity in diversity. 
Sage Sankara’s whole wisdom can be summed up into one sentence:- ‘There is nothing else but Brahman. He says that Absolute Existence, Absolute Knowledge and Absolute Bliss is Real. The universe is not real. He says that Brahma and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many in different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances.

Sage   Sankara: ~  "Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread." (Select Works of Sage Sri, Sankara" also his commentary on Brihad)

Sage   Sankara:~  The Gnani "should pass through life", not run away from life, and should take a middle course between seeking worldly honor and worldly abasement. ( Chap.3.4.50; Sankara's commentary to Brahma Sutras)

Genuine philosophy must be independent of religion, that in Sage Sankara himself the Saguna Brahman or a personal God is only a part of the phenomenal (if not illusory) world and the Nirguna Brahman is the only reality and has nothing to do with religion. 

The main hurdle in his way of thinking is the fact that Sage Sri, Sankara did not claim to be an original thinker at all, and his philosophy took the form of commentaries on the generality of scriptures, particularly the Upanishads and the Gita. 

Sage  Sankara was an independent thinker. His philosophy has not been taken seriously by many in India because most of the followers of Sage Sankara are religious orthodox.

It is that philosophy in India was for centuries more an exposition of the ancient classics than the independent thought of individual thinkers as in ancient Greece or modern Europe and America.

Sage Sankara and  Sage  Gaudapada are independent thinkers other schools of Indian philosophy are mere theologies. Advaitic philosophy is real philosophy. The dualistic philosophy cannot escape the charge of dogmatism.

Intelligence and thought, do not apply to Advaitism, intelligence and thought are based on a false self (waking entity) within the false experience (waking).   The whole Advaitic philosophy is an attempt to transcend the limitations of intelligence and thought.

The two points of view A Gnani is not cut off from the experience of practical life within the practical world because Advaitic truth is neither realism nor idealism; it is beyond both these.
Sage Sankara said:~Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many gods as you please, observe ceremonies and sing devotional hymns, but the liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.

Philosophy does not begin with the ultimate truth. The ultimate truth has to be proved, not assumed. Hence, so-called philosophers who take Brahman for granted are not philosophers at all.

Lots of Advaitin scholars will teach that all is yourself, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analyzed it scientifically, and none can prove it. Rational proof is required so that one arrives at knowing the ultimate truth or Brahman i.e. Gnana.  Theirs is mere dogma, parrotism, and repetition of what they read in scripture.  Authoritarianism merely assumes as true what another says, but what has yet to be proved.

Sage Sankara endeavored toward establishing the Vedic religion and overthrowing Buddhism. But even he was not able to avoid the influence of Buddhism. The influence of the revolutionary atmosphere of Buddhism has reappeared in the Advaita of Sage Sankara. His inability to revive the Vedic religion that flourished before the Buddhist revolution in its pure form is discernible.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Science cuts itself from the witness and remains aloof from the witnessed.+


Science is the highest teaching in the world of duality. Spirituality has its roots in the same world but ultimately leads to Advaitic awareness.

Sage Sankara was the first Sage scientist who unfolded the mystery of the universe 1200 years back.
Sage Sankara's Advaitic wisdom is more rational and scientific and is nothing to do with religion and its dogmas.
Sage Sankara says this entire universe which through ignorance appears as of diverse forms, is nothing else but Brahman which is absolutely free from all the limitations of human thought.

One day in the future science will declare that everything is consciousness, which Sage  Sankara declared 1200 years back ~ everything is Atman- because Atman is in the form of consciousness. 

Science is based on objects; its inventions are based on an object as the subject. Thus, modern science can get the truth of the objectified subject. Elimination of object mentally and realizing the subject, then judging the worldview on the base of the pure subject leads to the discovery of ultimate truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.

Remember:~

Science cuts itself from the witness and remains aloof from the witnessed.  The scientist not only stands aside, outside the field of the witness. It is because the scientist is unaware of the witness, which is apart from the witnessed, and he and his invention are part of the witnessed. Therefore, science cannot cross the threshold of physical existence.  Thus, its invention is limited to physicality.  

Science is based on objects; its invention is based on an object as the subject. Thus, modern science can get the truth of the objectified subject. Elimination of object mentally and realizing the subject then judging the worldview on the base of the pure subject leads to the discovery of the ultimate truth.  

The feelings and impressions and notions are based on the physical self. Scientific inventions are based on the physical self (ego). Deeper inquiry, analysis, and reasoning reveal the fact that the physical self is the false self (ego) within the false experience(waking).    

Modern science is the very opposite of Gnani’s standpoint of view.  Gnani says that a thing exists from the standpoint of the form as the self and the form ceases to exist without the Soul, the Self.  

Therefore, it is necessary to know the fact that, the true self is not physical but the formless spirit, which we call it Soul, the Self.  

There is a need for sufficient distinction or discrimination that has to be made between the witness and the witnessed. The witness is mixed and identified with what it witnessed and the result is doubts and confusion still prevailed without identifying the witness.  
 
Personal feelings, ideas, and judgments entered into the presentation of facts by the so-called Gurus, and the whole mass passed as truth, the process often being given the high-sounding name of Intuition, Vision, or Revelation which are mere fancy based on the physical self.  

The religious idea of rewarding the virtuous and punishing the sinner in graded degrees are popular among the mass. These are some of the very well-known instances of pathetic fallacy, that is to say, introducing the element of personal sentiment in our appreciation of events and objects. Even today's literate mass follow or observe these religious dogmas, superstitions, and tradition.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

Monday, April 29, 2013

The orthodox pundit seeing Sage Sankara will see differently from the A Gnani seeing the same Sage Sankara.+


According to Advaita Vedanta, the Veda addresses itself to two kinds of audiences - the ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of rituals  and sacrifices. The more advanced seeker who seeks to know Brahman. The Purva mimam. sa, with its emphasis on the karma kanda of the Vedas, is meant for the first audience, to help lead its followers along the way. However, the Vedanta, with its emphasis on the jnana kanda, is meant for those who wish to go beyond such transient pleasures.

The look of an object will depend upon the medium through which the observer views it. In fact, our mental and intellectual conditions will determine the phenomenal world observed and experienced.  The orthodox pundit seeing Sage Sankara will see differently from the A Gnani seeing the same Sage Sankara.  Each one of them interprets the world that they see in terms of their existing knowledge.

The orthodox see Sage Sankara as the founder of their religion and also as the Jagad guru of the  Advaitic orthodox sect.  A man of truth sees Sage Sankara not as a guru but as a Gnani. Orthodoxy believes in their experience of birth, life, death, and rebirth and the world as reality. Whereas Gnani sees the world is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.  Thus Gnani sees no second thing other than consciousness. The one who treads the path of wisdom gains the knowledge of reality beyond form, time, and space. A  Gnani has delved into and transcended consciously all identification with the experience form, time, and space. 

Similarly, orthodoxy has to be bifurcated from philosophy. To know the Advaitic philosophy of Sage  Sankara one has to be free from all superstitions and dogmas and orthodoxy and scriptural knowledge.  The seeker has to be more rational and scientific in his attitude.   

Sage Sankara said: ~ Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many gods as you please, observe ceremonies, and sing devotional hymns, but the liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness. 

Philosophy does not begin with the ultimate truth. The ultimate truth has to be proved, not assumed. Hence, so-called philosophers who take Brahman for granted are not philosophers at all.

Lots of Advaitin scholars will teach that all is yourself, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analyzed it scientifically, and none can prove it. Rational proof is required so that one arrives at knowing the ultimate truth or Brahman i.e. Gnana.  Theirs is mere dogma, parrotism, and repetition of what they read in scripture.  Authoritarianism merely assumes as true what another says, but what has yet to be proved. 

Sage Sankara’s whole teaching can be summed up into one sentence, ‘There is nothing else but Brahman. He says that the Absolute Existence, Absolute Knowledge and Absolute Bliss are Real. The universe is not real. He says that Brahma and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances. 

Sage Sankara:~"Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread." (Select Works of Sage  Sankara" also his commentary on Brihad) 

Sage Sankara: ~  The Gnani "should pass through life", not run away from life, and should take a middle course between seeking worldly honor and worldly abasement. ( Chap.3.4.50; Sankara's commentary to Brahma Sutras) 

Genuine philosophy must be independent of religion, that in Sage Sankara himself the Saguna Brahman or a personal God is only a part of the phenomenal (if not illusory) world and the Nirguna Brahman is the only reality and has nothing to do with religion. 

The main hurdle in his way of thinking is the fact that Sage Sankara did not claim to be an original thinker at all, and his philosophy took the form of commentaries on the generality of the scriptures, particularly the Upanishads and the Gita. Sage  Sankara was an independent thinker. His philosophy has not been taken seriously by many in India, because, most of the followers of Sage  Sankara are religious orthodox.

It is that philosophy in India was for centuries more an exposition of the ancient classics than the independent thought of individual thinkers as in ancient Greece or modern Europe and America. 

Sage Sankara, and  Sage Gaudapada, are independent thinkers, other schools of Indian philosophy are mere theologies. Advaitic wisdom is real wisdom. The dualistic wisdom cannot escape the charge of dogmatism. 

Intelligence and thought, do not apply to Advaitism, intelligence and thought are based on the false self (waking entity) within the false experience (waking).   The whole Advaitic philosophy is an attempt to transcend the limitations of intelligence and thought. 

The two points of view A Gnani is not cut off from the experience of practical life within the practical world because Advaitic truth is neither realism nor idealism; it is beyond both these. 

Sage Sankara said:~ Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many gods as you please, observe ceremonies, and sing devotional hymns, but the liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness. 

Sage Sankara endeavored toward establishing the Vedic religion and overthrowing Buddhism. But even he was not able to avoid the influence of Buddhism. The influence of the revolutionary atmosphere of Buddhism has reappeared in the Advaita of Sage Sankara. His inability to revive the Vedic religion that flourished before the Buddhist revolution in its pure form is discernible.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

A person, who stamped his foot on the ground to refute to show the world, is real, ignore that in dream he would do exactly the same--stamp his dream foot on the ground and assert it to be real.+


The dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. That means the dream entity, people within the dream and the dream world becomeS unreal. In the same way, the waking entity and people within the waking experience and the waking world become unreal when wisdom dawns. 

A person, who stamped his foot on the ground to refute to show the world, is real, ignores that in the dream he would do exactly the same--stamp his dream foot on the ground and assert it to be real. 

From the standpoint of the waking entity, the universe is a reality from the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the universe is merely an illusion created out of consciousness. When wisdom dawns then one realizes the whole universe is consciousness. The dualistic view is possible only in ignorance. 

At the dawn of Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, there is only the non-dualistic view in the midst of duality because the whole universe is consciousness. Thus all the contents of the universe are also consciousness.  Form, time, and space are merely an illusion created out of consciousness. If the form, time, and space are consciousness then the experience of birth, life, and death is also consciousness.    

Advaitic Sage and Maya or illusion  

VlSHNUVARDHANA, the King of the Hoysalas, was a Vaishnavite and was greatly incensed at the doctrine taught by Advaitic Sage that everything here below is an illusion. He wanted to teach the exponent of this doctrine a lesson. So he invited the then Advaitic Sage to his palace. That holy man went there and stoutly maintained that everything in this world was an illusion. The king had arranged to let loose an infuriated elephant against Advaitic Sage. The beast rushed at Advaitic Sage who took to a precipitate flight to save himself.

'Oh, Venerable Sir,' shouted the king, 'why do you run so fast seeing that the elephant is only an illusion?'

'Oh, king,' said  Advaitic Sage in the cou
rse of his flight, 'my running too is an illusion. Everything in this world is an illusion.’ 

Similarly, we are unaware of the fact that we are within the illusion because we exist within the waking world.  The waking experience itself is an illusion.  Due to ignorance of the Soul, the Self, the illusion is experienced as reality. 

All our love and concern for humanity is a reality within the illusion.:~Santthosh Kumaar   

Jesus meant knowledge of the Spirit, the God (pearls) or Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana should not be shared with ignorant people (pigs).+


God is not physical but God is Spirit God means the ultimate truth or Brahman. Brahman is God.  There is only one consciousness because  Soul, the Spirit is second to none. 

Do not hold any book as an authority. Until you mentally transcend the universe into the Spirit by perfect understanding and assimilation of 'what is what', it is impossible to realize the Spirit or God is hidden by ignorance.

Until you unlearn whatever you have learned it is impossible to realize God in truth.
In spirituality, the Spirit is God in truth. You must take the ultimate truth as God in truth. First, the seeker has to realize what God is supposed to be in truth. The Soul, the ‘Self’ is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. God in truth pervades everything and everywhere in the universe in which we exist.
Thus, everything is God because the whole universe is created out of God or Spirit or consciousness). If you know the ‘Self’ as the Soul then the Soul, the Self is free from the cage of the dualistic illusion or Maya.
That is why Jesus said: ~ Do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. (Matthew -7:6)
Spirituality is nothing to do with religion. Spirituality is based on the Spirit, the real God whereas religion is based on the false self within the false experience.
Bible says: ~ “God is a Spirit, and they that worship God must worship God in Spirit and in Truth (John 4:24)”,
The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved. The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is.
No religious God can exist, apart from the Spirit (consciousness) because the Spirit itself is God. 

Remember:~

If God is the formless Spirit, then how does man know God created the world? There is no proof. If man had seen God creating the world, he could admit it, but how could he have seen God before he came into existence? (i.e. were created).

The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved. The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is. 

 The Spirit is present in the form of consciousness. Everything is consciousness. All the moments are within the dualistic illusion. Whatever happens within the dualistic illusion is bound to be an illusion created out of consciousness. Thus, consciousness alone is real and all else is merely an illusion.
“Spirit is my father and I and my father are one.”
If the Spirit is the father the son is bound to be the Spirit. The Spirit, the beloved alone is real and all else is merely an illusion. 
There is no God in the dualistic illusion because the dualistic illusion is created out of God, which is present in the form of the Spirit or the consciousness.  Thus, God alone is real.
Spirit is prior to Love. Love implies duality. The love hides God. When love disappears God appears.  Find the Self and Love the Self and rest in God, which is the Spirit.

Consciousness is the only reality in which the universe exists, to which the universe belongs; from which the universe has emerged, which is the cause of the universe and which itself is uncaused.  Thus, the universe is nothing but consciousness. 

The Kingdom of God is inside you and all around you, Not in a mansion of wood and stone.  Split a piece of wood and God is there, Lift a stone and you will find God." (Gospel of Thomas) 

God is not physical. God is the Spirit. God is the Self.  God is birthless and deathless because God is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

Birth, life, and death happen within the illusory world, which is created out of Christ, which is present in the form of the Spirit. 

Jesus said:~ "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all." (Gospel of Thomas 2)

Jesus said: ~ Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. (THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS- Saying 5)

The Soul is the Self, the Soul is present in the form of consciousness. Consciousness is the root element of the universe. From consciousness, the universe comes into existence. In consciousness, the universe resides. And into consciousness, the universe is dissolved.  Consciousness is the parent of all that is there.

The Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. Thus, everything is God in truth nothing but God in truth. 

Gospel Thomas logian 22:~ Jesus saw infants being suckled.  He said to his disciples, “These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom.”

They said to him, “Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?”

Jesus's version of Advaita: Jesus said to them:   “When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside  and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female is female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,  and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom.”

Santthosh Kumaar: ~ When one realizes mind (matter) and Soul (spirit), the  Self is one in essence then there is no place for duality. Without the duality, the universe ceases to exist as a reality. Without the universe, your existence within the universe is merely an illusion because there is scope for two because everything is created out of single stuff.   That single stuff is the  Spirit. The Spirit or consciousness
What is the use of arguing with religious believers?  They think of what they know as the ultimate truth.
Those who indulge in a perverted argument on their own standpoint and opinion are not seeking the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.  They just want to exhibit their accumulated knowledge accumulated from here and there.  They think what they know is the ultimate truth.
They think whatever they propagate is the ultimate truth. The question never occurs to them, “Is what I know is really the truth?
That is why Jesus said: ~ Do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. (Matthew -7:6) 

~ Jesus meant knowledge of the Spirit, the God (pearls) or Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana should not be shared with ignorant people (pigs).

Spirituality is nothing to do with religion. Spirituality is based on the Spirit, the real God whereas religion is based on the false self within the false experience. :~Santthosh Kumaar