Monday, July 8, 2013

I searched for God and found only the Soul, the Self. I searched for the Self and found only the God in truth.+



One has to go beyond Vedas means to go beyond religion. Going beyond religion means, going be One has to go beyond Vedas means going beyond religion. Going beyond religion means, going beyond the concept of God. 

Thus, going beyond Veda, religion and conceptual god means going beyond illusion. That is the  end of Vedas (Veda –antha) 
I searched for God and found only the Soul, the  Self. I searched for the Self and found only God.
When one searches for the  Self then finds only the Soul.  The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. The Soul is the ultimate Truth or Brahman.   Brahman is God.

Meher Baba said:~ A true aspirant is not content with the knowledge of spiritual realities based on hearsay... he insists on the direct knowledge."

Jesus said:-"Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all." (Gospel of Thomas 2)

Jesus said:~” Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. (THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS- Saying 5)

"The Kingdom of God is inside you and all around you, Not in a mansion of wood and stone.  Split a piece of wood and God is there, Lift a stone and you will find God." (Gospel of Thomas)

Gospel Thomas logian 22:~  Jesus saw infants being suckled.  He said to his disciples, “These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom.”

They said to him, “Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?”

Jesus said to them,  “When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside  and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female is female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,  and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom.”

Swami Vivekananda:~  Stick  to the truth.  Beware of even that is untrue. stick to the truth and we shall succeed, maybe slowly, but surely.

Sage Sankara:~ VC--"All this universe which through ignorance appears as of diverse forms, is nothing else but Brahman which is absolutely free from all the limitations of human thought.

Sage Sankara said:~  Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many gods as you please, observe ceremonies, and sing devotional hymns, but liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.

According to Advaita Vedanta, the Veda addresses itself to two kinds of audiences - the ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of ritual sacrifices, and the more advanced seeker who seeks to know Brahman. Thus, the Purva mimam. sa, with its emphasis on the Karma Kanda of the Vedas, is meant for the first audience, to help lead its followers along the way. However, the Vedanta, with its emphasis on the Jnana Kanda, is meant for those who wish to go beyond such transient pleasures

Kabir lived in Kashi, a place abounding in scholars. They believed it was enough to read, to accumulate knowledge from books. They were well versed in the Vedas, the Upanishads, and the other scriptures and they looked upon Kabir as ignorant, as an illiterate man. In one sense, you can say Kabir was illiterate. If you consider a scholar as literate, as a well-educated man, then Kabir was definitely illiterate. But of what value is the scholar’s knowledge? A scholar will go on and on about the immortality of the soul, but when death approaches you will find him trembling and weeping and wailing. All this talk of immortality will crumble into nothingness because he has not known it..: ~ Osho -The Great Secret, ch. 2

Kabir: knows. What he is talking about is not an explanation, what he is talking about is an experience – he is sharing his joy, he is sharing something that he has known, and he is singing the song about the unsung.  Remember, that whenever Kabir talks about God it is not a belief; he knows it, it is his experience. He is talking out of his experience; hence he can be of immense help to you...: ~ Osho --The Guest, ch. 1

Remember:~

Those who lack the intelligence to discriminate between formless witness (subject) and three states (object) will not be able to grasp what is real and what is unreal. Both subject and object are consciousness, not subject alone. 

The truth can never change. The nature of truth is, that it can never be changed under any circumstances. It may be misrepresented. It must apply to the whole of existence, to the whole of the universe. It is in the object (three states) alone that one has all changes, as deeper analysis points out.

The subject (formless witness) remains unchanged. The subject (formless witness), as such remains immortal. It can never die for it changes. The body and the world are an object and go, but the subject or the knower of the body and the universe can never go. The seeker has to take this principle as his guiding thread and non-dual truth becomes easy to grasp. The formless witness can never be subject to the changes of the object; it is unchanged. The mistake usually made is that the subject becomes the object, or that object is the subject. 

If one wants to have an absence of contradictions, an absence of duality, there must be one entity, one being. If one has experience which is an object (mind), there is a contradiction between subject and object, for "mind” is an object. 

The duality is a reality from the standpoint of the false self (ego or the waking entity). The duality is merely an illusion on the base of the Soul, the Self, which is consciousness. This understanding comes only to the serious seeker, who has a real urge to know the ultimate truth, which is beyond all the teachings and teachers. There is neither teaching nor teacher nor student in the realm of truth. :~Santthosh Kumaar 

Sunday, July 7, 2013

If the dream is experienced without the waking entity (form) then what is it that experiences the dream? +


The dream become unreal when waking takes place. Similarly, the waking becomes unreal when wisdom dawns. Wisdom dawns when the waking entity (you) realizes it itself (you are) is not the Self because the Self is birthless, deathless because it is formless.
The one which is born, lives, and dies in this illusory world is not the Self. The Self is the formless Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the three states are illusory. If the three states are illusory it means the present birth which happens within the waking experience is bound to be an illusion. If the present birth is an illusion the past birth is bound to be an illusion.
From the standpoint of the Soul, the innermost Self the experience of birth, life, death, rebirth, and the world is merely an illusion. Thus, it is necessary to realize the Self is not the birth entity; therefore the previous birth is part of the illusion.
When the Soul remains in its own awareness, there is no second thing that exists other than the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, because everything is consciousness.

Remember:~

How does one see various objects, scenes, and persons during dreams?
If the dream is experienced without the waking entity (form) then what is it that experiences the dream?
Therefore, there must be a formless witness of the dream world. This formless witness is the same witness that is witnessed this waking experience also. Therefore the waking experience and dream both are witnessed by one and only formless witness of which the seeker is unaware.
Since he considers his ego as the ‘Self’ and views and judges the worldview from the standpoint of the ego he is unaware of the 'Self' hidden by the universe, which is the dualistic illusion or Maya.
The Soul, the 'Self' can exist with or without waking or dream. But the waking or dream ceases to exist, without the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of the consciousness.
The gross waking experience is merged into the mental experience in the sense that, when it is analyzed, it is found to exist inseparably in and as the consciousness alone.
The universe, which is the dualistic illusion or Maya is really mental: those who regard the universe as reality are deceiving themselves.
The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly, the waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. Therefore everything has to be grasped mentally, not argued from an intellectual standpoint,

Remember:~

No one can escape the waking experience which is the very basis of physical existence. What was the waking experience before it appeared? Was their existence before the appearance of the waking experience?

When the waking perishes, does the Soul or consciousness survive alone? Is there a Self or Soul? The seeker has to find answers to all to realize ‘what is the truth’ and ‘what is untruth’.
As one goes deeper in Self-search one becomes aware of the fact that the Self is neither the waking entity non-Self is the dream entity but the Self is a formless substance and witness of the three states. And the formless substance and witness of the three states are one in essence. And that essence is consciousness.
If the formless substance and witness are one in essence, then there is a second thing that can exist, other than consciousness. Thus, consciousness alone is real and all else is merely an illusion created out of the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.
People who argue there is nothing beyond the universe; there is nothing other than the matter; that the body was the man; and death was the end of all.
According to them, there is no truth other than the practical life within the practical world, which they hold as reality. Their only agenda is as long as they live in the world and live happily with all the pleasant things of life, who can demonstrate that there is something left after physical death? Beg, borrow, or steal – but live happily is their mantra.
There are also people who believe strongly there was a spirit that defied the ravages of time, which cannot be confined in space; that spirit transcends the limits of this universe in which the body exists.
How one can decide what is the truth? when he is bound by the experience of the birth, life, and death or form, time, and space?
Consciousness is the Self. And the nature of the consciousness is formless and non-dual. One should realize consciousness as the whole universe without parts.

To describe non-duality as a system is erroneous because the dual and non-dual is the nature of the Self.

Duality is the illusory nature of the Self and non-duality is the real nature of the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness. Ultimate truth cannot be confined to a narrow set of ideas:~Santthosh Kumaar

Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood.+


All the ignorant Gurus of the east and west foolishly propagate that the Self can be experienced they are unaware that the Soul, the Self is ever nondual. 

The Soul, the Self, which is the ultimate truth or Brahman cannot be experienced. Because it is prior to any experience. Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood. There is neither individual nor his experience in reality 

There is neither experience nor the experiencer in non-dual reality but only Self-awareness.
Mind is an experience, not an experiencer. Mind appears as waking or dream [duality] and disappears as deep sleep [non-duality]. Man and his world are within the waking or dream.

The waking experience is a parallel dream. And the dream is a parallel waking experience. Thus trying to experience the truth as an individual is a total impossibility.

People who are trying to experience the Self as an individual is in hallucination because the Self is not an individual but it is universal. Self, which is consciousness pervades everything and everywhere in all three states.

Gurus who are expounding knowledge that the Self can be experienced as an individual are playing with the feelings and sentiments of the people and making them hallucinate and keeping them permanently in the grip of hallucination.

The truth has to be mentally traced and grasped, understood assimilated, and realized by deeper self-search because it is hidden within the three states but it is beyond the three states. There is neither individual nor his experience of the world in non-dual Self-awareness.

Remember:~

Man and his experience of the world cannot exist without waking experience. How can the man experience the Self, when the man himself is part and parcel of the illusion? The Soul, the Self is prior to man and his experience of the world. 

From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the three states are merely an illusion. Thus, there is no such thing as three states because there is only oneness. 

Nothing is needed other than a perfect understanding of 'what is what' is needed.

The truth cannot be experienced. Because it is prior to any experience. Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood. There is neither individual nor his experience in reality.

If one bases it on the sayings of some Guru and Saints, even granting that they honestly believed in their experiences, there is still the query, how do they know that these experiences were the truth. Because the experience is possible only in the domain of form, time, and space. Form, time, and space are within the dualistic illusion. Thus, whatever experience experienced within the dualistic illusion is bound to be a falsehood.
Whatever we believe in what we see and feel and experience are within the dualistic illusion. The truth cannot be ascertained through experiences.

The experience implies duality. If one says it is anubhava or experience, then my experience differs from yours: Such disagreement does not settle the matter.

Remember:~

Anubava in the Advaitic contest is not an experience but is the realization of the 'Self' hidden by the dualistic illusion (Maya or universe).
Remember the 'Self', is not an individual but the Self is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. the experience is possible only in the domain of form, time, and space. In reality, form, time, and space are one in essence.
Individual truth is not a universal truth. An individual cannot claim that he has experienced the whole.
There is no proof he has seen it because the whole is not an individual experience.
Man and the world are within the whole. Therefore such claims of experiencing the Soul, the Self is hallucinations because the whole cannot be experienced. After all, the experience of form, time, and space is merely an illusion created out of the formless soul or consciousness.
All claims of experiencing ( anubava) the 'Self' or Brahman is a falsehood because experience implies. Duality and from the ultimate standpoint, duality is an illusion.
Thus, the Soul, the 'Self 'or 'Brahman' cannot be experienced because it is prior to any experience and there is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. 'Self' has to be realized by getting rid of ignorance through wisdom.:~Santthosh Kumaar

A Gnani sees the world in which he exists as consciousness, just as the goldsmiths view the ornaments as nothing but gold.+


Therese is no need to step out of the illusion. A Gnani lives within the world but he is not of this world.
At the dawn of the Advaitic wisdom, life will go on as usual within the dualistic illusion but the conscious awareness of reality is always there.
For Gnani whether there is a dualistic illusion or there is no dualistic illusion makes no difference because he is free from experiencing the individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world as a reality.
A Gnani sees the world in which he exists as consciousness, just as the goldsmiths view the ornaments as nothing but gold.
A Gnani never considers his body and his experience of the world is not different from consciousness.
A Gnani considers the world in which he exists as the Soul. And the Soul is present in the form of consciousness.
Consciousness is the witness that experiences the action, the actor, and the world of separate things. It is like a light that illuminates everything in a theatre, revealing the master of ceremonies, the guests, and the dancers with complete impartiality. Even when they all depart, the light shines to reveal their absence.:~Santthosh Kumaar

The individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world has appeared on its own and it disappears on its own.+


The individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world has appeared on its own and it disappears on its own.
Whether a person takes it as a reality or illusion all depends on his mental and intellectual conditions will determine the phenomenal world observed and experienced. The look of an object will depend upon the medium through which the observer views it.
A Gnani viewing the universe differently from the ignorant is viewing the same universe. Each one of them interprets the universe he sees in terms of his existing knowledge. The Gnani sees the world in which he exists as merely an illusion created out of consciousness whereas the ignorant see the world in which exists as a reality.
Thus, experiencing pain and pleasure within the dualistic illusion or Maya with the illusory ‘Self’ is bound to be an illusion.
The illusion is created and sustained and finally dissolves as the consciousness, which is the‘Self’. Since there is no second thing other than consciousness; the consciousness itself is the ultimate truth or Brahman.
The one who has realized this truth for him this illusion is a passing show because he is fully aware of the fact that the world in which he exists as the consciousness.
Practical people's approach is more practical, and they are stuck with the reality of the practical life within the practical world, they take it as real whereas Gnani has the firm conviction that:-
The Soul is the witness that experiences the action, the actor, and the world of separate things. It is like a light that illuminates everything in a theater, revealing the master of ceremonies, the guests, and the dancers with complete impartiality. Even when they all depart, the light shines to reveal their absence.
What is not consciousness (formless) in the world in which we exist? The world, in which we exist ceases to exist without consciousness. The seeker, seeking and his destination is nothing but an illusion created out of consciousness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

The universe is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.+.


The universe is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.
People's approach is more practical, and they stuck with the reality of the world, they take it as real. That is why all the confusion.
The look of an object will depend upon the medium through which the observer views it. In fact, our mental and intellectual conditions determine the world, observed, and experienced. The commoner viewing the world will see differently from a Gnani viewing the same world. Each one interprets the world that they see in terms of their existing knowledge. The commoner sees everything based on the ego, therefore, experiences birth, life, death, and the world as a reality, whereas a Gnani sees everything as consciousness and he is fully aware of the fact that, there is no second thing that exists other than the Soul or consciousness. Thus, all the egocentric (religious) adulteration has to be bifurcated to realize the ultimate truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.
Sage Sankara says you must first know what is before you. If you cannot know that, what else can you know or understand? If you give up the external world in your inquiry, you cannot get the whole truth.
The Soul, the 'Self' reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready.
It takes time for the seeker to gain the perfect understanding of ‘what is truth’ and ‘’what is untruth’. It takes time for the Soul, the Self to wake up from the sleep of ignorance, and it takes time for one realizes the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.
As one indulges in deeper self-search one becomes aware of the fact that the universe or mind, which appears and disappears, is the only form and shape created out of consciousness and nothing else.
Consciousness alone is positive proof and from the standpoint of consciousness or Soul as Self, one becomes aware of the falsity of this universe (mind), which is merely an appearance. 
The one which appears as the mind (universe) and disappears as no mind (Soul) is consciousness alone. Therefore, the mind and the Soul are one in essence. Without consciousness, the universe ceases to exist. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

When the Soul, the Self becomes aware of its own formless non-dual nature then it becomes empty of ignorance or illusion or duality.+


When the Soul, the Self becomes aware of its own formless non-dual nature then it becomes empty of ignorance or illusion or duality. 

The emptiness is the nature of the Soul, the Self. Emptiness means the Soul, the Self is empty of ignorance.

The ‘I’ is not limited to an individual. The ‘I’ is the whole universe. Without the ‘I’ the universe ceases to exist. Until you limit the ‘I’ to you, you will never be able to realize the ‘Self’ hidden by the ‘I’.

The ‘I’ appears along with the universe and disappears along with the universe, therefore, the ‘I’ itself is the universe.

You appear along with the universe and disappear along with the universe. Without the universe, you cease to exist.

Ignorance is present in the form of the ‘I’. The ‘I’ is present in the form of the dualistic illusion (Maya).
The dualistic illusion is present in the form of the universe. The universe appears as waking or dream and waking or dream (duality) disappears as deep sleep (non-duality).

‘I’ itself is ignorance.

‘I’ itself is a dualistic illusion.

‘I’ itself is mind.

‘I’ itself is the universe.

'I’ itself is waking or dream.

‘I’ itself is form, time, and space together.

But remember:~

Without the ‘’I’ there is no ignorance.

Without the ‘I’ there is no dualistic illusion.

Without the ‘I’ there is no mind.

Without the ‘I’ there is no universe.

Without the ‘I’ there is waking or dream.

Without the ‘I’ there is no form, time, and space.

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ ‘The permanent (consciousness) is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ “You must first see the ‘I’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

First, you must make sure the ‘I’ itself is illusory because the ‘I’ is not permanent. =The seeker has to find for himself the truth of his true existence and to come to a fuller and deeper understanding and realization of the truth, which is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space.:~Santthosh Kumaar