The ‘I-centric Gurus say find out who is saying ‘I’?+

       First, the seeker has to investigate what this ‘I’ is supposed to be in actuality.

All the ‘I-centric’ Gurus and their teachings are a great obstacle to unfolding the truth hidden by the ‘I’. The ‘I’ itself is ignorance.

As the seeker becomes more and more Soulcentric, he realizes the fact that the ‘Self is not ‘I’ but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is hidden by the ‘I’. 

From the standpoint of the Soul, the ‘I’ is merely an illusion created out of the Soul. The seeker must realize, what is ‘I’? - supposed to be in actuality.

The ‘I’ is present only when the mind is present. Without the ‘I’ the mind ceases to exist.

The mind is present when the universe is present. Without mind, the universe ceases to exist.

The universe is present only when the waking is present. Without the universe, the waking ceases to exist.

So, without the ‘I’ the mind or universe or the waking cease to exist.

From the standpoint of the Soul is the ‘Self’, the ‘I’ the mind or universe or the waking cease to exist as a reality.

The Soul is the ‘Self’ that can remain with or without the ‘I’. 

Remember:~ 

The ‘I-centric Gurus say find out who is saying ‘I’?

Santthosh Kumaar: ~  It is you who is saying ‘I’ within the universe, which is the dualistic illusion.  Without the universe, you cease to exist. The Soul, the Self is not he or she to say ‘I’ because it is ever nondual.

The ‘I’ is not limited to an individual because the ‘I’ is the whole universe. Without the ‘I’, the universe ceases to exist. If you limit the 'I' to an individual then it is ego. 

Until you limit the ‘I’ to an individual you will remain in ignorance of the Self hidden by the ‘I’.

If the ‘I’ be true, let it then be perceived in the state of deep sleep also. As it is not at all perceived, it must be unreal and false. 

The seeker has to make sure what is this ‘I’ supposed to be? The seeker has to make sure the unreal nature of the ‘I’ which comes and goes to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ You must first see the ‘I’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

The ‘I’ is present in the form of the mind. The mind is in the form of the universe. From the standpoint of the Soul the innermost Self the universe is merely an illusion. The illusion arises from ignorance. Enlightenment comes with detachment from the illusion by realizing the experience of the form, time and space are one in essence.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.

People think the ‘I’ without the body is the Self. The seeker has to understand the fact that the Self is not the ‘I’, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true Self, which is eternal.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10: ~ If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, you are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’, which they take as real because some Gurus have propagated the Self is the ‘I’. is no need to convince such a mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

The one who holds the ‘I’ as the Self never will be able to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. Thus, it is necessary to realize first the ‘I’ is not the Self, but the Soul the formless witness of the ‘I’ is the Self.

The ‘I-centric Gurus and their teachings are not a yardstick in the path of wisdom. ‘I’ based teaching will not lead the seeker to the ultimate end of his inner journey: 

Different Gurus and teachers are pointing out the understanding of the Advaitic truth from a different standpoint. All such an understanding of Advaita is on the dualistic perspective accumulated from here and there. 

Advaita is not a theory or a philosophy. Advaita is the nature of the Soul the innermost Self. There is no need for any theory or philosophy or scriptures to acquire Self-knowledge. Only a perfect understanding of ‘what is what’ is needed. 

The citations from scriptures are not proof. The ultimate truth has to be proved without the scriptures. The ultimate truth is the universal truth and it does not belong to any religion. Religion causes diversity in unity, whereas, the ultimate truth brings unity in diversity. 

It is not that one should pore over the ancient scriptures. There is no need to study first, then realize. One has to realize first, then only he will know ‘what is the truth’ and ‘what is untruth’. 

One has to make his discoveries through the process of rational thinking. 

That is why Sage Sankara says: ~VC 65- As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments. 

People refuse to accept anything other than their Gurus words. For them, their Gurus words are the ultimate truth. They do not accept anything else other than their accepted truth. There is no need to convince such a mindset.

Such a mindset is not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seekers of truth accept only the truth nothing but the uncontradictable truth. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar