Why waste time discussing yoga, religion, and the worship of the religious Gods glorifying of the Gurus in the Atmic Path.
Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is not for those who believe in religion and its beliefs like mantras and worship of Gods. Mantras and prayers are nothing to do with the Atmic path. Those who are attached to Mantras and prayers and worship must continue on their chosen path the Atmic is not for those who are stuck with religious dross.
In the Atmic path, the discussion is unimportant. One must think deeply and reflect on the subject. Passing their opinion with their accumulated knowledge will not help anyone. Those who believe in religion and yoga as final are unfit to tread the Atmic Path.
Mythology deals with symbols. It is not history; it is not concerned with objective reality. But that does not mean that it is not concerned with reality itself. It is concerned with subjective reality. These Gods, these mythological symbols, do not exist outside you, but they have a psychological existence and that psychological existence can be helpful and can be used. So the first thing to be understood is that they are not real persons in the world, but they are real symbols in the psyche of man.
Mythological Gods are a myth. All mantras are based on the mythological Gods who keep one in the prison of the dualistic illusion. The mantras never help to cross the trash hold of the form, time, and space. Mantras are meant for the ignorant populace who believe form, time, and space as reality. What is the use of the mantras based on the false God will yield false fruits?
62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utters the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realization one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.
That is why In Mundaka Upanishad 1:2:8 “Remaining in the fold of ignorance and thinking “we are extremely wise and learned,” the fools with boastful nature ramble about like the blind led by the blind alone.”
The people who follow religion think that following their inherited religion is their duty. And questioning the Guru or scholars is irreligious. Thus, they indulge in rituals and hearing of religious discourses. They are weak and timid.
Lord Krishna says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.
The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the innermost Self. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists.
The Vedas confirm God is Atman (Spirit), the Self.
Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.
Rig Veda 1/164/46: ~ “They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni, or the heavenly sunbird Garutmat. The seers call in many ways that which is One; they speak of Agni, Yama, Matarishvan.
Rig Veda 8/58/2:~ Only One is the Fire, enkindled in numerous ways; only One is the Sun, pervading this whole universe; only One is the Dawn, illuminating all things. In very truth, the One has become the whole world.
Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)
Rig-Veda 1-164-46 and Y.V 32-1 clearly mention that God is “One”.
Rig Veda declares God is ‘ONE’ and God is Atman, then why believe and worship in place of real God.
Brihad Upanishad: ~ “If you think there is another entity, whether man or God there is no truth."
When Upanishad itself declares: ~ Sarvam khalvidam brahma ~ all this (universe) is verily Brahman. By following back all of the relative appearances in the world, we eventually return to that from which it is all manifest – the non-dual reality (Chandogya Upanishad).
Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other besides it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.
What happens if one worships one which is not the real God with mantras and prayers based on the dummy gods. It is only priest-crafted baggage.
Yajurveda says: ~
Translation 1.
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc).
They sink deeper into darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)
Translation 2.
"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent." (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith pg 538)
All the accumulated knowledge of religion and yoga and paths and theories are mere dross in pursuit of truth. Religion and yoga are helpful for the populace, but they are a barricade in unfolding the mystery of the mind. Therefore, the Orthodox people, if they are seeking the truth, then have to drop all accumulated dross to acquire nondual wisdom. Advaitic wisdom alone is a weapon to eliminate ignorance.
Remember:~
The Soul, the Self is the subject. The Soul, the Self is present in the form of consciousness. The subject remains unchanged. The subject, as such remains immortal. It can never die for it changes.
The universe is an object and go, but the subject of the universe can never go. The seeker has to take this principle as his guiding thread and non-dual truth becomes easy to grasp.
The Soul, the witness can never be subject to the changes of the object; it is unchanged. The mistake usually made is that the subject becomes the object, or that object is the subject.
If one wants to have an absence of contradictions, the absence of duality, there must be one entity, one being. If one has experience which is an object (mind), there is a contradiction between subject and object, for "mind” is an object.
The duality is a reality from the standpoint of the false self (ego or you). The duality is merely an illusion from the base of the Soul, the 'Self', which is present in the form the consciousness. This understanding comes only to the serious seeker, who has a real urge to realize the ultimate truth, which is hidden by ignorance. the ignorance is present in the form of the 'I'.
All the '- centric' Gurus and their teachings and teachers are based on ignorance, therefore, they are a great obstacle to realizing the truth, which is hidden by the 'I'. There is neither teaching, nor teacher, nor a student in the realm of truth.
Different paths will not converge to the same Ultimate Reality because they are based on the false self. They are not different stages in the same path.
People fight about the differences and the greatness of their chosen paths but only through Advaitic wisdom one can realize the Ultimate Reality.
One has to have perfect understanding and march ahead, surely and steadily, towards that Ultimate Reality, which is the Soul or consciousness or Brahman. One becomes limited to the concepts, names, and forms within the waking/dream. The Waking/dream is merely an illusion that originates from the Soul, the Self.
The Soul is the Self. The Soul is present n the form of consciousness. Realizing the Soul, or consciousness as the 'Self' is truth realization.
The Soul or consciousness is formless, limitless, permanent, unchanging, and by its nature non-dual and universal. Consciousness is the cause of the universe and it is uncaused. the Soul or consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.
Realize Brahman or ultimate truth or God here and now, in this very life, not in the next life and in the next world by realizing the fact that, the present life itself is an illusion. :~ Santthosh Kumaar
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