Tuesday, October 28, 2014

Your existence is a reality within the waking experience.+




Sage Sankara: ~ "The ignorant see the body of a knower of Brahman and identify him with it. Actually the Soul the innermost Self is free from the body and every other kind of bondage. To the Self, the body is merely a shadow."

Your existence is a reality within the waking experience.  From the standpoint of the Soul, the innermost Self, the waking experience itself is merely an illusion.

 Therefore, “Senses see, touch, listen and so on, breathing in and out is going on, there is memory and imagination and thoughts arising in the mind. Anger, fear, anxiety, and happiness are the expressions of Life to keep the mind alive. This is the format of Life. Can one see that there is nothing beyond this? Continuous change is what Existence is. What causes the change? It is again a thought ‘about’ change. The inevitability of change silences the brain. Reveals 'what is True'.”  ~ Is bound to be an illusion because everything is made of single stuff.  The knowledge of that single stuff is Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

The dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. Similarly, the waking becomes unreal when wisdom dawns.  Wisdom dawns when one realizes that form, time and space are one in essence.   That essence is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

You are not the 'Self’’because you are mortal.  You are mortal because you are bound by the experience of birth, life, death, and the world.  The ‘‘Self’’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness and is immortal because it is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. 

The one that is in ignorance is the Soul; the one that has to wake up from the sleep of ignorance is the Soul, the ‘Self’.

 The world in which you exist is the product of ignorance. When ignorance vanishes the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of consciousness. Without the illusion, the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness alone will prevail as the ultimate reality or Brahman.    Thus, consciousness is Brahman.

 Self-realization is necessary to realize ‘what is the truth and ‘what is the untruth.

Consciousness is the root element of the universe. The consciousness is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost ‘Self’.  From the Soul, the universe comes into existence. In the Soul, the universe resides. In addition, into the Soul the universe dissolves.   The Soul is the parent of all that is there.

Rest in consciousness, by realizing the universe in which you exist is nothing but consciousness. 

The world is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.

People's approach is more practical, and they stuck with the reality of the world, they take it as real. That is why all the confusion.

In Self-awareness-- the witness and witnessed are one in essence. That essence is consciousness. There is no second thing that exists other than consciousness.

Thus, whatever is seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person is a reality within the waking experience (duality) but the waking experience (duality) itself is merely an illusion.  

Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana severs the bonds of ignorance and liberates the Soul from the dualistic illusion.  

Like an ornament made from gold is Gold, that which is born out of the consciousness is bound to be the consciousness.  Like gold is the permanent thing, in ornaments made of gold, similarly, the mind, which is in the form of the universe is born out of the consciousness, is consciousness in its essence.
Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).
The all-pervading consciousness is the basis of all the sentient and insentient.
The look of an object will depend upon the medium through which the observer views it. In fact, our mental and intellectual conditions determine the world, observed and experienced.  The commoner viewing the world will see differently from a Gnani viewing the same world. Each one interprets the world which confronts them that they see in terms of their existing knowledge. The commoner sees everything based on the ego therefore he sees the experience of the birth, life, death, and the world as a reality, whereas a Gnani sees the world in which he exists as consciousness and he is fully aware of the fact that there is no second thing exists other than the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. 

Thus, all the egocentric (religious) adulteration has to be bifurcated to realize the ultimate truth or for Brahman to know the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. :~Santthosh Kumaar 

The ultimate truth or Brahman has to be proved without the scriptures.+


Sage  Sankara said:~Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works, nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way. (1) VivekaChudamani v 56, pg 25

The citations from scriptures are not proofs.  The ultimate truth has to be proved without the scriptures.  The ultimate truth is the universal truth and it does not belong to any religion.  Religion causes diversity in unity, whereas, the ultimate truth brings unity in diversity. 

That is why Sage Sankara himself says: ~ VC 59. The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.

60. The Scriptures, consisting of many words are a dense forest that merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence, men of wisdom should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self.

61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae), and medicines to such a one?

That is why Sage Sankara says:~ V C:~65- As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never come out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

It is not that one should pore over the ancient scriptures.  There is no need to study first, and then realize. One has to realize first, then only he will know ‘what is the truth’ and ‘what is untruth’. One has to make his discoveries through the process of rational thinking.
He who has not rectified his reasoning  base from the ‘I’(form) base to Soul (formless) base  and one  who does not have the intense urge to know the non-dualistic or Advaitic  truth,  and who is not tranquil and subdued and whose mind is not receptive , cannot acquire Self-Knowledge  or brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. 
When we realize that form, time, and space are one in essence,  then it leads to Advaitic  Self-awareness.  In Self-awareness,  even though there is diversity,  there is unity in diversity, because everything is created of the same stuff. That stuff is consciousness. There is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. :~Santthosh Kumaar  

Is there a God? What is his nature?+



Some claim that the universe was created thousands of times in cyclic order.  They speak as if they themselves were present before they were created at each time.  It is mere imagination or assumption without proof.

How does a man know that, he is related to God when he has not seen God and that God created the world, that He has manifested himself is merely supposed.  Every religion has its own idea of God and his creation.   One religion will not accept the idea of another religion of God and his creation.  Thus, there is no universality in their idea of God.

Man and his experience of the world are part of the creation, which means man did not see God creating the world.  Man created God with his own imagination.  Such an imaginary God has no place in the realm of truth. 

The seeker of truth should never start his quest with the idea of God. He does not know whether there is God or not. There is no proof. The seeker has to accept   God only after he gets proof of his existence.

One e need not doubt that mystics saw Krishna, Shiva, Kali or  Jesus or Buddha. That they saw visions may he an undeniable fact. But the question is:-  “ what they saw as GOD is really a  GOD?

Many people who make similar claims. They no doubt had such vision, but they never stopped to inquire if their visions are true. the dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place. the visions are a parallel dream, therefore how can they accept the dream as unreal and accept the vision as real.  

When wisdom dawns than the waking experience itself become unreal.  thus whatever seen, known, believed and experienced as the waking entity is bound to be a falsehood.

The seeker of truth has to take all the facts, science, and religion and then investigate  'what is the truth?'  

One has to collect as much evidence as possible, even contradictory, and then proceed to examine all of it.  seeker of truth should not be opposed to anything, but he has to analyze mentally and know what is truth and on what basis it is the untruth. 

Remember:~ 

A Gnani also has a body and perceives the world like everyone else. The wisdom will not dawn by becoming thoughtless or going blank. The  Self is nondual it does not mean that Gnani is bodiless, but he is fully conscious of the fact that his body and his experience of the world are one in essence. And that essence is consciousness.  The Soul,  the Self which is present in the form of consciousness. 

From the standpoint of the Soul, the   Self,  you, your body and your experience of the world are merely an illusion. Thus, no second thing exists other than the consciousness even though the Soul, the Self is within the world it is not of this world.     

People talk of universal consciousness, but they do not know it in this physical body, or in that universe.   it is only  Mere guess!

Those who speak of developing God-Consciousness are meaningless because they merely find their own idea of hallucination of God.  Because they are unaware of their true existence and they are trying to develop god consciousness on the base of the physical self, which is the false self  (ego) within the false experience(waking).  They do not know what God is because they do not know what truth is.

v  How does one know there is a God?

The onus of proof is on the one who makes this assertion.  Such a god can be imagined only on the physical self, which is the false self within the false experience.  When waking experience itself is falsehood from the ultimate standpoint than whatever one thinks or imagines as god is bound to be a falsehood.  Without proof, one e should not accept any religious doctrine. 

v  What is the value of so-called spiritual experiences?


v  What is the value of the words of wise men and sages? 


In the pursuit of truth, the seeker has to examine and evaluate them all in order to find the truth.

v  Is there a God?


v  What is his nature?


Let there be proof. Such questions must arise. People know God according to their religious samskara or conditioning but that they must know him as Truth. They must have proof of what God is in truth.  

v  Why did God create pain and pleasure? 


v  Why did he create a world which was never peaceful and why he wants people to fight in the name of God and religion?


v  Is this God of belief is a sadist?  


v  Has God no better business to do?


v  What type of lessons he is teaching people through these sufferings. 


v  What lesson can God teach the people who lost their lives in wars, violence, epidemics and natural calamities? 


v  How can one believe that God is all-merciful when he constantly has become the cause of concern to the whole of humanity? 

Suppose religionists say they have got faith in religion and their God. Suppose atheists have no faith in the belief system and their belief of God. Thus, there is a contradiction. Nothing can be done about it. In the realm of the truth, there can be no contradiction, nor any possibility of it. In the realm of the truth, there is no scope for the duality.  

Thus, man and his world and his belief in God can exist only in the domain of duality. The duality is falsehood from the ultimate standpoint.  

Thus, one has to reach the ultimate end of understanding to realize that duality is merely an illusion is created out of the Soul, The Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.   

People believe by praying to God their problem in practical life will be solved. It is mere coincident something occasionally get what they ask for. They think it to be a miracle to be placed to the credit of God! But when they fail to get what they pray for they do not attribute these failures to God, and thus,  the obvious fact that, the failures far outnumber the successes. 

Hundreds and thousands of people from all over the world pray to God to protect humanity, but the prayers remain unheard, the war, violence, terrorism, epidemics,  and calamities continue in this so-called Gods creation.

Yantra, mantra,  and tantra are for the ignorant populace.  In this modern age, people are capable of thinking deeply and assimilating and realizing the ultimate  truth or Brahman.  Thus, we have to focus our attention on acquiring Self-knowledge. By dropping all this accumulated dross, which is a hindrance in realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman. 

The illusion can be understood only when the mind learns to view and judge on the base of the soul,  innermost self.

Vedic religion was modified and reintroduced with new add-ons by Sage  Sankara a great Advaita founder to uplift the Vedic culture and Sanatana Dharma, which were in ruins in the clutches of Buddhism. 18 Puranas are introduced in the name of Veda Vyasa. 

It indicates the fact that somewhere someone has added the Puranas in the name of Veda Vyasa the grandmaster of Vedas. It is impossible to accept and believe that Veda Vyasa authored and introduced Puranas which has all conceptual gods because:~ 

Belief in multiple Gods, The worship of idols; the worship of images that are not God, The worship of sacred images, ancestor worship, pilgrimage, priestcraft, the belief in avatars or incarnations of God, the hereditary caste system on the grounds that all these lacks Vedic sanction.


In Vedas, God has been described as:~


         Sakshi (Witness

         Chetan (conscious)

         Nirguna (Without form and properties). 

         Nitya (eternal)

         Shuddha (pure)

         Buddha (omniscient

         Mukta (unattached).


It indicates clearly all the gods with form and attributes are mere imagination based on the false self. 


And also  in Yajurveda says:~


Translation 1.

They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc).

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)


Translation 2.


"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent."(Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith pg 538)


Translation 3.



"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."(Yajur Veda 40:9.)


So, Yajur Veda indicates that:~

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol etc  (Yajurved 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."(Yajur Veda 40:9.)

When the religion of the Veda knows no idols then why so many gods and goddesses with different forms and name are being propagated as Vedic gods. Why these conceptual gods are introduced when the Vedic concept of God is free from form and attributes. 

Who introduced the concept of god with attributes and attributeless gods, when Yajur Veda says: ~  those who worship visible things, born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like), in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness. Therefore, all these add-ons prove that the form and attribute-based concepts are introduced by some sages of the past with a new belief system and code of conduct in the name of Vedas.  

Sruti is made the final or exclusive authority in apara Vidya and that for supporting the tenet of the CAUSAL relation or creatorship of Brahman, Nirguna Brahman = the "Absolute beyond qualities," which can be defined only in a negative way. For the Sankarian school = the Ultimate Reality, higher than the Lord. i.e. of Saguna or apara Brahman ... The support of Scriptural Revelation is, therefore, absolutely necessary for this hypothesis of cosmology, this Saguna or apara (= inferior) Brahman, but not for the absolute truth of Nirguna Brahman.  The Sruti itself says: "This Atma is NOT to be attained by a study of the Vedas.  (Katha Upanishad I, 2, 23.)   

Instead of physical sacrifice, an inner, spiritual sacrifice is enjoined; “sacrifice in knowledge is better than sacrifice with material objects” (Gita, 4:33, Miller 1986: 53).
    

Therefore, all the add-ons,  and attribute-based knowledge, which are inferior, have to be bifurcated and excluded to know the ultimate truth.  The seeker of truth has to drop all the inferior knowledge based on the attributes and go beyond Vedas to understand assimilate and realize the ultimate truth or Brahman.  The ultimate truth or Brahman itself is God. 

One has to go beyond Vedas means to go beyond religion. Go beyond religion means, go beyond the concept of god.  Thus, going beyond Veda, religion and conceptual god means going beyond illusion.   That is the end of Vedas (Veda –antha) 

When one goes into the annals of the history it looks like the true Advaita expounded by Sage  Sri Sankara and Sage Sri, Goudpada was lost or mutilated by the orthodox, because the preaching and practice do not match. 

It is necessary for the seeker to do his homework, and verify the validity of all the claims, rather than blindly believe, what others expound as knowledge, till; the un-contradicted truth is obtained.

The seeker must have the courage of Buddha to accept the truth and reject the untruth. Since Buddha rejected religion, the idea of god and scriptures, therefore, it is evident that he has gone through every aspect and verified and found them to be inadequate and useless for the pursuit of truth.

Remember:~

Even Buddhism is mixed up with regional culture and traditions of the local religion, wherever it existed. Thus to get the full essence of Buddhism is very difficult.

The scriptures are for ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Wisdom is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.

Each sect concocts a God to suit its own purposes.  Such concocted Gods have no value in pursuit of truth.  The Man himself suggests that there must be a God. It is an auto-suggestion. 

Prayers and sacrifices belong to a premature stage of development. However, when no answers come to prayers, the struggle for existence presses the man, and doubt arises again.  Faith in religion weakens as the man pays more attention to facts of life and this world. 

The Reason is the common ground for whole humanity in the modern age, whereas the appeal to scriptural relations reaches only the sects.  Those who argue that truth is only in their religion are vain logicians, depending on mere ideas, speculations, and imaginations. 

Remember:~

The Truth is a bitter pill. It becomes very difficult for the seeker to accept it at first; because of his inherited conditioning. Gradually he will be able to grasp it as he moves on.

The illusion is present only in ignorance where 'I' and you are a separate entity. In truth, there is neither 'I' nor you, nor, the illusion. Therefore, there is no teaching, no teacher, and no student in reality.

Truth pursuit is a very personal journey. The seeker has to verify minutely on his own, “what is the truth”, and “what is not the truth”, before accepting anything as truth. The illusion exists as a reality, only on the base of the ego, which is the false self within the false experience.

For Gnani, who is aware of the fact that the Self is not physical, but the Self is consciousness, there is no illusion, even though; he is in the midst of illusion because he is fully aware of the fact that, all the three states are consciousness.  Therefore, he is conscious of consciousness in the midst of illusion.  

The language of the duality, invented by the within the duality, for use in the dualistic world, when used to describe non-duality, produces these apparent contradictions, because, there no apparatus in non-duality, because nothing exists other than the soul, which is in the form of consciousness. 

There is only one absolute reality, which Soul, which is in the form of consciousness.  the nature of the Soul is formless and non-dual. Consciousness or Soul is the Self. and consciousness is the only reality, and everything else, which appears to exist as the universe is merely an illusion.

The continuing cycle of birth, death, and rebirth (samsara or universe or waking) occurs because of ignorance.   However, the illusion can be overcome by removing the ignorance of the fact that  Soul is the ultimate truth  or Brahman.  universe is essentially consciousness and has no individual existence. 

Nonduality is the state of oneness of existence and there is no scope in its philosophy for anything like non-existence.  


Gaudapada’s rational exposition of Advaita:~  That whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis, is unreal. 


The essence of Manduka Upanishad is:~ Do not be satisfied with rituals, yoga, etc. which are good in their own way but inquire. Inquire into the nature of the mind. ? Brahman and Atman are things one can never see. So the seeker should not inquire into them.  He has to inquire into the world around him, which he can see. Analysis tells him it is passing away every second. Everything is dying repeatedly. Where is it going? Thus, he follows up his investigation into what he can lay hands on. How can he inquire into Atman which he cannot see? So first he must deal with the known and seen, this inquiry leads up to the unknown in the end.

Mediocre minds waste their time arguing about unimportant matters. Accumulation of scriptural knowledge is dangerous in pursuit of truth. The seeker has to establish the truth of Non-duality by sheer reasoning alone. The seeker has to begin by defining "What is real?" "What is unreal?" etc, because that is the right way to discuss, understand and assimilate Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or  Atma Gnana. 

Thus, the seeker has to remove all the hindrances in order to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. :~Santthosh Kumaar 

People mistake the ego will vanish by being humble, loving others, but one cannot be humble and loving without the ego.+


The ego is the false self within the false experience.  The ego is the product of ignorance. Ignorance is the cause of experiencing duality as a reality.  Without the ego, one cannot perceive the world as a person because the person itself is ego.  

People mistake the ego will vanish by being humble loving to others, but one cannot be humble and loving without the ego.  Ego is the cause of mistakes and misunderstanding miscalculations.

Every man thinks "he knows the truth because he has read it in the books and he has heard it from his guru. But he himself is unaware of the fact that he and his experience of the world cease to exist in the realm of truth.  

Thus, whatever he has seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person within the waking experience is bound to be falsehood because the waking experience itself is merely an illusion.

People say they know the ultimate truth because they have experienced it.  How can anyone experience the truth when there is neither the body nor the world in the realm of truth?  But still, they claim   they have experienced it." They never try to doubt or to understand or to inquire as to what is a fact, or what is the definition of experience. The unwise takes the simplest path, that of the uninquiring mind, because the other way, the search for truth, is hard and difficult and laborious. Such questions do not worry about the religionists, the yogis, or the ordinary people.

I also get visions and experiences.  But the experience implies duality. Duality is not reality because the substance of the duality is formless and non-dual. Thus, any type of experience is merely an illusion from the ultimate standpoint. Many times we get guidance from such visions and experiences, which are helpful to reach the non-dual destination.    

People cultivated a slavish mentality, and they accept statements as merely because they are uttered by some guru or swami or God-men. They never bothered to inquire about the truth of their true existence.  

That is why Buddha said:~  Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.

Upanishad says ~   "He who thinks he knows, does not know." This means that to know anything implies a second, an object of knowledge, hence duality, i.e. no Gnana.

In olden times people simply sought some knowledge of the sun and stars; in the modern era, people are sharp enough to investigate whatever they have inherited as knowing whether it is true or not.  They begin their quest with a doubt.  In the confusing multiplicity of doctrines, each has their own theory, they do not have time to think and inquire if it is true. Yet the doubt is the first step to knowledge for the thoughtful.

The seeker should never be satisfied with mere skepticism, have the hope that his every doubt will be solved, and go forward and deeper.  Reason tells one what is good and what is bad, what should be followed and what let alone.

The seeker has to pursue this quest until his questions will be answered until his problems will disappear and his doubts will be solved. There is no doubt many masters have given a valuable contribution to seeking the world, but none of them takes one to the ultimate end. Thus, the seeker has to verify on his own remove the entire obstacle, which is blocking his realization on his own.  There is no need to criticize any teacher or Guru and waste time instead seeker has to utilize the same time to acquire self-knowledge through deeper self-search.  

Remember:~

People speak the supramental consciousness, who or what is there, to discover it because the mind is not there? It is an absurd statement.

The psychological writings of mystics and the pseudo-scientific explanations are not inferences from the facts of their mystic experiences but merely imaginations.

The mystic who says he has cosmic consciousness implies that he has astral traveled and seen that this consciousness was also there in the astral world; even if we take his experiences as a reality there is no truth in it because it is also an illusion within the illusion. Until the duality persists as reality the nondual reality will not be revealed. 

Truth means certainty. If there is any uncertainty it is not the truth. It does not deal with imagination. 

People do not have a scientific attitude because they take things as presented to them. They have rather an emotional and sentimental attitude. The correct attitude is to verify all the facts, to see a problem with them, something to investigate and inquire into them.

Remember:~

Truth must be verifiable; unless it is verifiable it is of no value.  Those who lack the capacity to doubt are not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana

The analogical, inductive, and deductive reasoning is good only within the physical existence; none is absolutely and universally infallible because they are based on the physical self.

Upanishads says -  Atman the innermost self is known by Reason alone, by the sharpened and purified intellect. Yet still, people worship Yoga and mysticism as the sole means of attaining Atman. 

Self-Knowledge is necessary to know the fact that, the universe, which appears is in the form of mind and disappears as nothingness (formless) is a mere mirage created out of nothingness, which is consciousness. Thus, consciousness is the source and witness of the universe or mind, which comes and goes. 

Thus,  it is necessary to know the formless witness of the three states in order to know the fact that, the true self is apart and free from the illusion, which is in the form of birth, life, death, and the universe. Therefore, it is necessary for the seeker to make sure how the three states are an illusion.

The body and the world are a reality within the waking experience, but the waking experience is merely an illusion, the same way as the dream body and the dream world was a reality within the dream. The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly, the waking experience becomes unreal when the nondual wisdom dawns.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

Quotations of wise men are not yardstick.+



One who has a firm conviction that what he knows or believes is true, then he must accept the accepted truth blindly and follow his chosen path without question because the path of truth is the path of verification. There is no scope for blind belief in the pursuit of truth.  

In the religious path, authorities are needed. In the path of truth, they are to be regarded only as giving opinions, which may be consulted out of curiosity, but are of no value as proof.

Many people think that the Ultimate truth cannot be known and they refuse to verify the validity of their accepted conviction.   There is no use in interacting with such people, so it is better to be in silent mode.   The seeker of truth must become merely an observer in the company of those who believe they know is the ultimate truth or Brahman.  

Most people think they know the truth because they have read the philosophies of all religions or they have read the books of great men.   They think what they know is right, what other people know is wrong." This unfortunate vanity is common to all men and prevents the realization of the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

Seeker of truth must begin by doubting his accumulated knowledge. Only when doubts begin to arise and start his quest for Truth. And such doubts usually first take the shape of asking why God sends epidemics and calamities and suffering?  In ancient times philosophy began with wonder, with moderns it begins with doubts.

Remember:~

Quotations of wise men are not a yardstick. Everything has to be verified and convinced by the use of reason based on facts. One may quote quotations in order to show that others have reached the same conclusion.

 If anyone quotes very extensively it is because he has made the quotations as a yardstick, he has not verified the facts. One must go to the very fundamentals, to the root of thinking, to grasp the principles and not merely repeat the words of philosophical quotations.

It is wrong to say that, the ultimate truth is known only by intuition. It is known by Reason based on the true self.

The seeker has to get rid of all his doubts by deeper thinking and reasoning that is, all his doubts on every question. Perfect understanding and assimilation cannot be reached if his understanding is based on the ego or the waking entity, which holds as the  Self. When he realizes the soul as the Self then there is no confusion,  the wisdom dawns automatically.

One has to overcome doubt by acquiring non-dual wisdom. The seeker should keep on thinking about his doubts until they are solved; he should not stop until this point is reached.

The path of truth is not the path of blind beliefs.  Deeper inquiry, analysis, and reasoning pries into the truth, the source, and the validity of the knowledge religionists and yogis claim. Therefore it is the most difficult part of the study of existence. :~Santthosh Kumaar