There is no practice as such, but perfect understanding is needed to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atman Gnana.+

There is no need to study Vedanta. One has to find out: - ‘what is mind or ‘I’?’, ‘what is the substance of the mind (I)?’ And what is the source of the mind (I) to realize the nature of the mind (I)?

Self-Knowledge cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. Therefore there is no use in studying the Vedas and other scriptures to acquire non-dual wisdom.

That is why Bhagavan Buddha rejected the scriptures, and even Sage Sankara indicated that the ultimate truth lies beyond religion, the concept of god and scriptures.:

Remember:~

There is no need to study Advaita or Buddhism or indulge in the yogic practice. 

Read repeatedly my postings and blogs and reflect and reason deeply which helps you to create a mental yardstick in your subconscious to discriminate between ‘what is the truth? And what is the untruth? When the subconscious is receptive and ready then it will start rejecting the untruth and finally then the Soul, the 'Self’ alone will prevail as the ultimate truth or Brahman or God.

There is no practice as such, but perfect understanding is needed to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atman Gnana.

When you realize the words, thoughts, and the world in which you exist is created out of single stuff and that single stuff is consciousness, then you will realize the truth which is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space. 

When everything is created out of consciousness then there is no second thing that exists, other than consciousness. It takes time to grasp the Advaitic truth. All the obstacles have to be overcome one by one. 

Realize with full and a firm conviction that: ~ 

You are not you but the consciousness; your body is not the body but the consciousness, the world in which you exist is not the world but consciousness. 

Everything is known, seen, believed, and experienced by you is nothing but the consciousness then what else remains, which is not the consciousness. There is nothing else to realize other than to realize consciousness alone is, everything else is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.

By realizing everything is consciousness is the Advaitic wisdom dawns. Perfect understanding and assimilation of ‘what is what’ lead to Advaitic awareness. 

Without the world, in which you exist God alone exists. When God disappears the world, in which you exist appears. The world, in which you exist disappears God appears. Thus, realize the God to be the Soul. 

The Soul is the Self. Thus, the Soul which is present in the form of consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. 

If you stick to the ultimate truth then the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of consciousness. If you realize this truth you will live in this world but not of this world. Thus, consciousness alone is real and eternal. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

All the chakras belong to the yogic path, not the Atmic path. Athma has no chakras because it is an ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.+

All the chakras belong to the yogic path, not the Atmic path. The Athma has no chakras because it is an ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The chakras exist within the form. Without the form, the chakras cease to exist. From the standpoint of the Soul The form, time and space are merely an illusion. Thus, whatever belongs to form, time and space is bound to be an illusion.

If the Self is the formless Soul then: ~

Where is the yogi?

Where are his chakras?

Where is the world in which he exists?

Where is the divine light?

Where is the divine sound?

Where is the divine vibration?

What needs us there to say more? Nothing from the Soul because whatever seems to emanate from it is non-different from itself.

There is no second thing other than the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. One should not mistake Self (Soul) for the ‘I’.

Even Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material (Gita 14.27)

The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad declares: "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from him does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

Even Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Religious Gods are based on blind belief. Belief is not God. Religious God cannot be considered as the center because the Soul and the innermost ‘Self’ is the center of all that exists. 

Without the Soul the world in which you exist ceases to exist, which means the religious God is dependent on the Soul for his existence. God in truth is only the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar 

Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to overcome doubt by the sword of wisdom.+

 

Arjuna says in Verse 63, Chap.18, Gita, that all his doubts are cleared, he means his doubts on every question. But this happy state could not have been reached if he had not begun by having doubts without inquiry and reasoning.

When Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to overcome doubt by the sword of wisdom, he does not mean that Arjuna should give up his doubt and belief, as the Pundits interpret it, but that he should keep on thinking and reasoning deeply about his doubts until they are solved; that he should not stop until nondual point is reached.

On the other hand, as Gita says, never be satisfied with mere skepticism, have the hope that your doubt will be solved and go forward. 

In the confusing multiplicity of doctrines, each has his own theory, he does not have time to think and inquire if it is true. Yet doubt is the first step to knowledge for the thoughtful.

Reason tells you what is truth and what is untruth, what should be accepted as truth and what should be considered as untruth.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ Reason as means to reality. (Chap.18 verse 37)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says: ~ I cannot save you, but I can give you Buddhi (reason). (chap. 10)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says: ~ "I have given you the most secret teaching, now reflect over it all" Krishna plainly says reflect, think. (Verse 63 of Chap. 18)
Mundaka Upanishad says: ~ Both states are harmful and take you away from the path of inquiry into truth. (Page 234)

Ashtavakra Gita: ~ It is not the absence of Buddhi can grasp Advaita but the man who possesses the highest intellect. Brains are necessary. Such a man, by merely hearing the truth mentioned will know it. (Page~ 224).

The mystic must become a constant slave to some line of "thought" or rather imagination, and then he will really see visions confirming his imaginations.

The mystic who sees God in vision has seen Him during the waking state. The waking experience itself is an illusion. Thus, whatever is seen within the illusion is bound to be an illusion. Thus, it is necessary for the mystic to realize his existence is a reality within the illusion.

Whatever belief of God one is familiar with through his inherited conditioning or samskara that he will see in his visions. When a man is a false self within the false experience, then whatever he believes is bound to be a falsehood.

God is the Soul, the Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. God is not within you, but you and your experience of the world are within God. Self-realization is God-realization because the Soul, the Self itself is God. When you and your experience of the world disappear then God alone prevails as a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.: ~ Santthosh Kumaar

The Self is not within the body then why you think the Self is within your body.+

Q:~ Dear Pure Soul, Is it not true that when The Eternal Cosmic Laws get fulfilled, Subtle Truth becomes one's Subjective Experience in 72000 Subtle Meridian Channels in the body as All-Pervading Presence! But could it ever be accessed with limited 5 Senses as Objective Reality? The Sacred Substratum ever exists as [All Pervading Total Awareness] was never formed to ever disappear! sincerely- Suresh

Santthosh Kumaar: ~

Dearest brother

As per my conviction

‘Suppose if you are discussing the same subject in a dream the dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place. Similarly, you are discussing the same subject now in waking then the waking becomes unreal when you realize the Self is not you but the Self is the Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness. The Soul, the Self is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the world in which you exist is merely an illusion.

If the world in which you exist is merely an illusion then “your idea of The Eternal Cosmic Laws get fulfilled, Subtle Truth becomes one's Subjective Experience in 72000 Subtle Meridian Channels in the body as All-Pervading Presence! But could it ever be accessed with limited 5 Senses as Objective Reality? The Sacred Substratum ever exists as [All Pervading Total Awareness] was never formed to ever disappear.” ~ is bound to be an illusion.

Remember this:

The Self is not within the body then why you think the Self is within your body. If you think the Self is within your body then you will never be able to realize the Self, which is hidden by the world in which you exist.

Remember this:

The Soul, the Self is not within your body because the Soul, the Self is hidden by the illusory world in which you exist. It is hidden within the illusory world in which you exist because the illusory world in which you exist is created out of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Thus, consciousness alone is real and all else is an illusion.

Remember: ~

The Soul is the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. The consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world, in which you exist ceases to exist. Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny consciousness because it is the very essence of the one who denies it. Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

The Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is real and eternal. The world in which we exist is an illusion created out of consciousness. : ~Santthosh Kumaar

People think they can control the mind. But with what they are going to control the mind.+

People think they can control the mind. But with what they are going to control the mind?

How can anyone control the mind, with the mind?

There is no other tool available other than the mind. How can man still his thoughts without knowing the nature of the mind? or what is the mind?

When the man and his experience of the world cease to exist without the mind.

It is necessary to know what is mind to realize the ultimate truth or Brahman.

Remember:~

The objective world is not a creation of the mind because the objective world itself is the mind. Thus, without knowing ‘What is mind? ‘What is the substance of the mind and ‘What is the source of the mind? it is difficult to understand, assimilate Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

Realize what the mind is supposed to be with full and firm conviction.

The mind is present in the form of the ‘I’.

The mind is present in the form of form, time, and space.

The mind is present in the form of the universe.

The mind is present in the form of the dualistic illusion.

The mind appears as waking or dream (duality).

The mind disappears as deep sleep.

Remember:`

Without the mind:~

There is no ‘I’.

There is no form of form, time, and space.

There is no universe.

There is no dualistic illusion.

There is no waking or dream (duality.

From the spiritualistic perspective, the mind is limited to an individual because the mind is the whole universe.

People mistake the ego for the mind. They limit the mind to an individual. It is an error and this mistake has to be rectified by a perfect understanding and assimilation of ‘what is what.

The seeker has to know: whether the physical body and the world are within the mind or the mind is within the physical body?

The mind, physical body, ego, and the world are present only when the waking experience is present. And the mind is absent when the waking experience is absent.

Thus, one has to conclude the mind as the whole waking experience.

The mind appears as the waking experience or the dreams (duality) and disappears as deep sleep (nonduality).

All your arguments are true only on the base of the ego, which is the false Self, within the false experience (waking). The individual experiences within the waking are as real as a dream.

Suppose the same subject, if we are discussing in the dream and one asks me the same questions in the dream, then whatever he said in the dream becomes unreal, when the waking takes place.

Whatever one says now, he is saying within the waking experience. The waking is unreal on the base of the formless witness, which is the Atman. Atman is present in the form the consciousness.

How does one see various objects, scenes, and persons during dreams? If the dream is experienced without the physical body, then what is it that experiences the dream? Therefore, there must be a formless witness (knower) of the dream world. This formless witness is the same witness that is witnessed this waking experience also. Therefore, the waking experience and dream both are witnessed by one and only formless witness of which the seeker is not aware.

Since he considers the physical body (I) as the Self or witness and views and judges the world-view on the standpoint of the false self(ego), within the false experience. The formless witness can exist with or without waking or dream. But the waking or the dream ceases to exist, without the formless witness (Soul).

The gross Waking experience is merged into the mental experience in the sense that, when it is analyzed, it is found to exist inseparably in and as the Soul alone.

All "spiritual" planes are really mental: those who regard them as different or higher are deceiving themselves.

The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly, the waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. Therefore, everything has to be grasped mentally, not argued from the intellectual point of view, which is limited to the false physical entity within the false experience.

The unreal is created out of the real, and when one views and judges from the standpoint of unreal (ego) then there is duality. When one can view and judge from the standpoint of the real (Soul, the Self) then there is only non -duality.

When the Advaitic truth is revealed then there is neither the duality nor the non-duality, only reality.

All these confusions will go on until the man thinks, he is an individual and apart from the world, and the world existed prior to him and he is born in it afterward. Therefore, it is necessary to know the fact the true Self is not ego, but the true Self is the Soul, and stop viewing and judging the world-view from the standpoint of the physical self (ego), and one has to view and judge on the true Self (Soul) to realize the fact that, the world along with the man is an illusion.

The Soul which is present in the form of consciousness is the cause of the illusion. The Soul is the ultimate truth or Brahman. From the standpoint of the Soul, the innermost Self, there is no second thing that exists there is neither experience nor the experiencer in non-dual reality, but only Self-awareness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Atman, the Spirit is the universal God. All religious propagated blind faith or blind belief-based Gods are not God in truth.+

The Soul, the Self is not Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist”, because it is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

In religion, there is no freedom to believe other than what it preaches. Religious people consider the mythological stories as truth and not believing in mythological Gods is irreligious. The mythological God can exist within the domain of duality. From the Advaitic perspective, duality is merely an illusion. Thus, whatever belongs to the illusion is bound to be a falsehood.

The religion declares one must believe that there is no other God but God propagated by the particular belief system.

The seeker has to deny the existence of such a God based on blind faith or belief because first, one must realize what God really is.

People find some of the religious doctrines are very illuminating. People who renounce the world and become a monk or sanyasi who leaves it all behind to find the truth of their true existence.

People think the events that happened in the mythological stories really happened the way they are described and hallucinate about these stories.

Swami Vivekananda: ~The masses in India cry to sixty million Gods and still die like dogs. Where are these gods?

Swami Vivekananda: ~ If religion and life depend upon books or upon the existence of any prophet whatsoever, then perish all religion and books! Religion is in us. No books or teachers can do more than help us to find it, and even without them, we can get all truth within. You have gratitude for books and teachers without bondage to them and worship your Guru as God, but do not obey him blindly; love him all you will, but think for yourself. No blind belief can save you, work out your own salvation. Have only one idea of God - that He is an eternal help.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ The Self is indeed Brahman (God), but through ignorance, people identify it with intellect, mind, senses, passions, and the elements of earth, water, air, space, and fire. This is why the ‘Self’ is said to consist of this and that and appears to be everything.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ ‘Brahmano hi pratisthaham’ ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the innermost Self. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists.

The Vedas confirm God is Atman (Spirit), the Self.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman (Soul or Spirit) is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Rig-Veda 1-164-46 and Y.V 32-1 clearly mention that God is “One”.

Rig Veda declares God is ‘ONE’ and God is Atman, then why believe and worship in place of real God. Atman, the Spirit is a universal God. All religious propagated blind belief-based Gods are not God in truth.

Brihad Upanishad: ~ “If you think there is another entity, whether man or God there is no truth."

Chandogya Upanishad: ~ Sarvam khalvidam brahma ~ all this (universe) is verily Brahman. By following back all of the relative appearances in the world, we eventually return to that from which it is all manifest – the non-dual reality (The Soul, the Self is not Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist”, because it is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other beside it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described, because description implies distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

Sage Sankara: ~"That which permeates all, which nothing transcends and which, like the universal space around us, fills everything completely from within and without, that Supreme non-dual Brahman (God)."

Thus, truth realization is Self-realization. Self-realization is God-realization because the Soul, the Self itself is God. God-realization itself is real worship. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

The seekers of truth have to follow the Atmic path to realize the Athma the ‘Self’ is God in truth.+

The seekers of truth have to follow the Atmic path to realize the Athma the ‘Self’ is real God. Atmic path is the Vedic path because Vedic God is Athma.

The Vedic religion or Santana Dharma emphasizes Self-realization. Self-realization is God-realization. God-realization itself is real worship.

The Vedas do not talk about idol worship; the followers of Vedic Religion or Santana Dharma never worshipped idols. Thus all the Puranic Gods which are of the form and attributes are not Vedic Gods.

Max Müller says: ~ "The religion of the Veda knows no idols; the worship of idols in India is a secondary formation, a degradation of the more primitive worship of ideal Gods."

Hinduism is not Vedic religion or Santana Dharma. Hindus do idol-worship, while Vedas bars idol worship.

The Vedas do not talk about idol worship. In fact, till about 2000 years ago followers of Vedism never worshipped idols. Idol worship was started by the followers of Buddhism and Jainism.

There is logic to idol worship. Vedas speak of one God that is the supreme ‘Self’ in i.e. Atman or Soul but Hinduism indulges in worshiping 60 million Gods. All these 60 million Gods are non-Vedic Gods based on their beliefs.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad:~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from him does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1.4.10)

The Vedas confirm God is Atman (Spirit), the ‘Self’.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman (Soul or Spirit) is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the ‘Self’. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Rig-Veda 1-164-46 and Y.V 32-1 clearly mention that God is “One”.

Rig Veda declares God is ‘ONE’ and God is Atman, then why believe and worship in place of real God.

Brihad Upanishad: ~ “If you think there is another entity, whether man or God there is no truth."

When Upanishad itself says: ~ ‘Sarvam khalvidam Brahma’ ~ all this (universe) is verily Brahman. By following back all of the relative appearances in the world, we eventually return to that from which it is all manifest – the non-dual reality (Chandogya Upanishad).

Bhagavad Gita: ~ ‘Brahmano hi pratisthaham’ ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27)

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Bhagavad Gita:~ “All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse -20)

Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth." The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

So, on the Vedic perspective, Lord Krishna is not Vedic God because Rig Veda says: May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?"

That is why Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth. The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

All Hindus indulge in non-Vedic practice barred by the Vedas introduced by the different founders of the different sects of Hinduism at aa different times, whereas the Vedic religion or Santana Dharma is ancient and has no founder.

Hinduism is not Vedic religion or Santana Dharma. Hindus do idol-worship, while Vedas bars idol worship.

Yajur Veda indicates that: ~

They sink deeper in darkness than those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc (Yajurveda 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship and glorify the non-~Vedic Gods in place of Vedic God when Veda bars such activities and it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

Sage Sankara: ~"That which permeates all, which nothing transcends and which, like the universal space around us, fills everything completely from within and without, that Supreme non-dual Brahman (God)."

One must remember that for all periods the Vedas are the final goal and authority, and if the Puranas differ in any respect from the Vedas, the Puranas are to be rejected without mercy.

If you feel Puranas says something and the Vedas say something else, reject the Puranas and believe in the Vedas. The Puranas are just a myth.

Even Sage Sankara says: ~ Supreme Brahman (God) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other beside it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described, because description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just its attributes. The nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

God is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. Thus, according to the Vedas God neither has any image nor God resides in any particular idol or statue. God cannot be seen directly by anyone.

From the Vedic perspective, Lord Krishna has been just a Mahan yogi and not God himself. Because in the Bhagavad Gita it says: Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar