Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Going back to the Vedas’ in order to realize the present day Hinduism is not the Vedic religion or Sanatana Dharma.+


Most people from the West think that Hinduism is a religion, but it is not so. The Indus (Sindhu) Valley culture is named as Hinduism by the Muslim invaders in the past, who were not able to pronounce Sindhu they called Sindu culture as Hindu culture. 

Thus,  the name Hindu came into existence.  Hinduism is a mere culture, not religion. This Hindu culture consists of different castes, creeds, ideologies, beliefs, and ways of life in different regions of India.

Santana Dharma was pure Vedic religion prior to the existence of present-day Hinduism.  Hinduism is not the pure Vedic religion; it is a hotchpotch mixture of many ideologies adopted by other ideologies, cultures, and traditions.  

As one goes deeper in annals of history he becomes aware of the fact that the so-called present Hinduism has adopted many things from Buddhism, the religion of Abraham, Jainism, and Islam.    If one goes deeper enough he will become aware everything is mixed up and messed up in time.

As one goes deeper into the annals of the religious history one becomes aware of the fact that Hinduism, as it is known today, has nothing to do with the Vedic religion or Sanatana Dharma. The Puranas and present Hindu rituals and worships are meant for the ordinary folk of illiterate and ignorant people. Hinduism has no link with the ancient culture of Vedic Religion Sanatana Dharma, which is the most ancient religion. 

It is a well-known fact that the Vedic people not only did not call themselves Hindus but also did not possess the essential characteristics of the Hinduism of today. However, to legitimize the antiquity of Hinduism, Maharishi Dayanand Saraswathi founder of Arya Samaj (1824-1883) insisted on ‘Going back to the Vedas’. Hinduism is too simplistic and it neglects many doctrinals and practical differences between the Vedic religion and modern Hinduism.

Modern Hinduism has drifted miles away from the Vedic faith so that the two seem to be two distinct faiths. When we carefully examine the two faiths, it is not difficult to discover that there is no noticeable continuity of Hinduism from the religion of the Vedas. In other words, the distinctive characteristics of the Hinduism of today cannot be traced in Vedic literature. Besides, although the Vedas are revered as sacred texts, there are many people in India who do not know what ‘belief in the Vedas’ means. In most cases, the acquaintance of the Hindus with the Vedas is limited to the few hymns that are recited in temples and household liturgies.

Remember:~

Santana Dharma was pure Vedic religion prior to the existence of present-day Hinduism.  Hinduism is not the ancient  Vedic religion; it is a hotchpotch mixture of many ideologies adopted by other ideologies, cultures, and traditions.  


It is a well-known fact that the Vedic people not only did not call themselves Hindus but also did not possess the essential characteristics of the Hinduism of today. However, to legitimize the antiquity of Hinduism, Maharishi Dayanand Saraswathi founder of Arya Samaj (1824-1883) insisted on ‘Going back to the Vedas’. Hinduism is too simplistic and it neglects many doctrinals and practical differences between the Vedic religion and modern Hinduism. Modern Hinduism has drifted miles away from the Vedic faith so that the two seem to be two distinct faiths. When we carefully examine the two faiths, it is not difficult to discover that there is no noticeable continuity of Hinduism from the religion of the Vedas. In other words, the distinctive characteristics of the Hinduism of today cannot be traced in Vedic literature. Besides, although the Vedas are revered as sacred texts, there are many people in India who do not know what ‘belief in the Vedas’ means. In most cases, the acquaintance of the Hindus with the Vedas is limited to the few hymns that are recited in temples and household liturgies.


Hinduism, as it is known and practiced today, has nothing to do with the Vedas. Rather, Hinduism is entirely based on the Agamas. ‘Going back to the Vedas’ to realize the present day Hinduism is not the Vedic religion or Sanatana Dharma.  

The Agamas are theological treatises and practical manuals of divine worship. The Agamas include the Tantras, Mantras, and Yantras. These are treatises explaining the external worship of God, in idols, temples, etc. All the Agamas treat of (i) Jnana or Knowledge, (ii) Yoga or Concentration, (iii) Kriya or Esoteric Ritual, and (iv) Charya or Exoteric Worship. They also give elaborate details about ontology and cosmology, liberation, devotion, meditation, philosophy of Mantras, mystic diagrams, charms and spells, temple-building, image-making, domestic observances, social rules, public festivals, etc.

Hinduism is almost entirely based on the Agamas and has nothing to do with the Vedas. The Vedic religion began to decay after the war of the Mahabharata and has today almost died out. The greater part of the Srauta karma is entirely gone; only a few elementary rites such as Agni sadhana, a much simplified Vajpayee, Garuda cayana, and Somayaga are sporadically performed by a handful of people.

The Agama is technically the name and the Vedas was well understood in ancient days when the Adamic cults were the rivals of the Vaidika cults; but as the two have now become amalgamated for several centuries, the distinction between them is not realized by the modernsall the more so as the theory is now prevalent that the Agamas are ultimately derived from the Vedas and do but contain amplification of the Vedic teachings or rather adaptations of them to suit the modern age.

The Agamic methods of worship being entirely fire-less and not being accompanied by the recitation of Vedic mantras must have been developed from the Dasyu rites. The Dasyu rites certainly prevailed throughout India, in the south, and in the north, before the rise of Vedic rites.

Now with regard to the rites, the Vaidika rites are fire rites. For each rite, a fire has to be lighted and intensified into a flame and on the flame, the oblations have to be poured. The Agamika rites are fire-less; the oblations have to be merely exhibited to the object of worship (icon) and then taken away. In the former the oblations are consumed by the gods because it is thrown into the fire; in the latter, the worshipper loses nothing of his offerings because God can take up only the subtle and unseen parts, so the worshipper consumes it himself and distributes it to his relations and friends.

Remember:~

Divisions of the Agamas: ~ The Agamas are divided into three sections: the Vaishnava, the Saiva, and the Sakta. The three chief sects of Hinduism, viz., Vaishnavism, Saivism, and Saktism base their doctrines and dogmas on their respective Agamas. The Vaishnava Agamas or Pancharatra Agamas glorify God as Vishnu. The Saiva Agamas glorify God as Siva and have given rise to an important school of philosophy known as Saiva-Siddhanta, which prevails in South India.  The Sakta Agamas or Tantras glorify God as the Mother of the Universe, under one of the many names of Devi.

The Agamas do not derive their authority from the Vedas but are not antagonistic to them. They are all non- Vedic in spirit and character. They are regarded as sacred by the priest-craft who indulge in non-Vedic worship and practices. 

Vedic religion or Santana Dharma has nothing to do with the Puranas, Mahabharata, and Ramayana too. There are myths in Hinduism, but those myths are contained in the Agamas. The Agamas have their own myths about the gods and do not rely on the Puranic myths at all. Agamicmyths are different from Puranic myths in the same stories. For instance, the birth of Lord Ganesha, where it is stated that Lord Shiva and Uma took the form of elephants and created Ganesha out of love, which is entirely different from the Puranic and Mahabharata version.

Most people in the West also in India find it hard to digest the historical truth, but rather keep parroting that the Vedas and Upanishads are the source and pinnacle of Hinduism because they are unaware of the fact that, Hinduism has nothing to do with the Vedic religion and Santana Dharma.
  
The erroneous, but prevalent popular notion is that the Agamas ultimately derived from the Vedas or are an amplification of it. This is usually said to find comfort.  But the fact is the Agamas preceded the Vedas. It does not derive from the Vedas nor does it amplify anything from the Vedas. The Agamas have their own philosophy.

Hinduism, consisting of Saivism, Vaishnavism, and Saktism, comprising practically 98% of the Hindu believers, whether they know it or not, abide by the philosophy of the Agamas, and not that of the Upanishads.

Where does that leave the Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad-Gita, and Ramayana? At best as unrelated supplemental readings. These supplementary texts have nothing to do with the temples, festivals, sacraments, or philosophy, which is the core of the religious and spiritual life of the Hindu. Along with it, all of its teachings and philosophy, including Varna.  For there is no varna in the Agamas!

It is better to hold the view that the Agamas, and the Vedas with their related texts the Upanishads, Puranas, Itihasas, and commentaries, were two parallel and independent streams with much conformity and similarity, and except that the Veda stream was eventually replaced completely by the Agama stream.  What exists today is the Agama tradition, with the Veda tradition only in name.

Remember:~

"From geographical information in the Rig Veda, the Vedic Period (1500-500 BC) was confined to the northwest. The hymns composed by Vedic mystics of the Northwest (Saptha Sindhva) tell that the Vedic peoples worshiped non-Brahminical Gods such as Indra, Varuna, Mitra. They ate beef, elected their chiefs, drank liquor, considered the Punjab Rivers to be sacred, and refer to people living in the south in the Gangetic region as 'Dasyas'!

None of the Gangetic Brahminical gods such as Sri, Ram, Sri, Krishna, Sri, Vishnu, Sri, Brahma are mentioned in the Rig-Vedic hymns nor do they appear in connected Aryan Avestan texts and Hittite tablets.

Avestan terms for soldiers ('rathaestar') and citizens ('vastriyo') are similar to Vedic-derived terms (Kshatriyasvasihyas) but the Avestan term for the priest ('athravan') is not even close to 'Brahmanas'.

Moreover, central Gangetic religious texts like the Mahabharata and Varna Ashram Dharma of Manu call the Vedic Aryans in Saptha Sindhva 'mlechas', 'Sudras' and 'vratyas'; 'forbid Brahmins' from even visiting the northwest country ('Vahika-desa'), and depict dark Dravidian Gods like Krishna fighting and defeating Vedic Aryan gods like Indra (Mahabharata). Similarly, the Rig Veda contains taboos and injunctions against the 'dasya-varta' region to the south of Saptha Sindhva and praises Indra, the God of Thunderbolt for victories over 'dasya-purahs' (dasya cities). 

Remember:~

"Both early Rigvedic and Gangetic Puranic sources clearly point to ethnic, cultural and religious differences and a 'clash of civilizations and nations' at the Ganga indicating that the Vedic people and culture of the Northwest did not accept the Gangetic priests, their gods, Shastras, religion, culture and Brahminical caste ideology. The eastern Gangetic heartland is not only historically a separate region, but geographically resides over 1500 miles to the southeast of the Saptha Sindhva country. Uptil the advent of Mohammed Ghori in the 13th century, the northwest was politically unified with South Asia only 92 years under the Mauryas (out of 27 centuries) since the start of Saptha Sindhva’s Vedic period (1500 BC). 

"A few Vedic tribes from Saptha Sindhva broke Rig Vedic norms and migrated southward. These numerically outnumbered groups expanding into the trans-Gangetic region near the end of the Vedic period (8-6th century BC) tried to use the indigenous Dravidian priesthood to entrench themselves as the new ruling order. Within a few generations of acquiring control over the foreign Gangasthan, the minority Vedic tribes were usurped by the indigenous 'borrowed' priesthood; their Aryan religion, Gods, and customs mostly deposed and supplanted with indigenous Gangetic gods and mythologies; and their new social order (varna or color based) replaced with the pre-existing profession (jati) based Brahminical caste system ('chatur-varna' ). Through religious manipulation and intrigue, the Vedic in-comers to Gangasthan were usurped and made to surrender their political rule and soon pigeon-holed into becoming the loyal obedient councilors of their 'superior' Davidic Brahmanas."

The Agama is technically the name and the Vedas were well understood in ancient days when the Agamika cults were the rivals of the Vaidika cults, but as the two have now become amalgamated for several centuries, the distinction between them is not realized by the modernsall the more so as the theory is now prevalent that the Agamas are ultimately derived from the Vedas and do but contain Amplifications of the Vedic teachings or rather adaptations of them to suit the modern age.

Hinduism is not Santana Dharma or Vedic religion.  Hinduism is not a religion. Rather it is a group of religions found within India that share common beliefs while still remaining very different. Many may even argue that it is not a religion but more a way of life. The term "Hinduism" was not developed by the practitioners, but by groups outside of the religions as a means for labeling the entire Indian people.

Remember:~

The Religion of the Veda knows no idols:~ 
Max Müller says ~ "The religion of the Veda knows no idols; the worship of idols in India is secondary formation, a degradation of the more primitive worship of ideal Gods."

Therefore, there was no individual god or temples and worships in Vedic religion, which existed prior to Buddhism.  Thus, the individualized gods and temples must have been built later on, when the warships of the idol were introduced.  Thus, the Vedic religion which existed in the past was free from idol and nature worship and idol worshiping rituals. 

Thus, the present day’s worship of individual gods, created things, nature, and humans are against Vedic teachings, and it looks like it has been fabricated and introduced by priestcraft. Since it, has passed on from one generation to the next it is hard for the people to believe the truth of their own religion, because they have sentimentally and emotionally involved in it and they refuse to accept anything else other than their inherited beliefs. 
It is impossible to find and realize the truth via religion and scriptural study. Even Upanishads confirm this. 

No one is taken pains to know the facts about their own inherited religion; because people have been inherited them, from their ancestors and they think it is blasphemy even to hear anything against their inherited religion and belief. Once one gets involved with the religious class it is the end of the pursuit of truth.

The culmination.....of the Vaidika...is Gnana.... 'It is by knowing Brahman that (one) becomes immortal here, there is no other path for going (realizing God)'. The culmination of the Agama way is Bhakti. The worship of the Gods is but a copy of the methods of the worship of men - chiefly gurus and kings which are barred by the Vedas.

Prior to  Sage Sri, Sankara in the 8th century there was no Advaita in Santana Dharma.  Santana Dharma or Vedic religion has no founders whereas Advaita and qualified Advaita and Dwita are identified with their founders.   All of them have non-Vedic rituals barred by the Vedas.    The dualism came only in 12 the century. The Orthodox Advaita and Dvaita are adulterated add-ons. Both Advaita and Dvaita schools are based on Vedas and they condemn each other with Upanishads and Puranic citations and try to prove they are right and others are wrong.

Remember:~

The religion including Orthodox Advaita is nothing to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman because they worship idols, human worship, and symbol worship and indulge in non-Vedic rituals barred by Vedas.  

The Buddhist scriptures were completely distorted by the time of Sage Sankara. Sage  Sankara had to criticize the Buddhist literature prevailing then as the Buddhists themselves were confused as to what Shunyata is. Vasubandhu and his disciple Dignaga (the latter lived about a couple of centuries before Sage Sankara) could not retain the original teachings of Lord Buddha.

At first, Vasubandhu did not agree with his half-brother Asanga and wrote one book on the Abhidharma and, later on, he went to the side of Asanga and wrote a second book, where? he opposed his own earlier views on Abhidharma. 

Sage Sankara? had to criticize Buddhist knowledge? and literature of his time as he wanted to bring to us back the Pure Vedantic knowledge through his work on the Prasthanatraya. That is why there is a reference to the writing of Dharmakirti in Sutrabashya.

There is another aspect that in Vishnu Purana also says that Bhagavan  Buddha created confusion. In Sarnath, he first taught about the basic Moral code. He talked about Anatma. Then? two decades later he taught the concept of Shunyata and? the tenets of Mahayana Buddhism.? Despite Nagarjuna's telling that Shunyata is not Nihilism and that Parajanaparamita also mentioning about the Shunyata after one leaf? the five? skandhas, there are and there will always be people who will go on calling Lord Buddha's philosophy as Nihilism. About the origin of the TantricBuddhism also? there are controversies.

Hindus hold Bhagavan  Buddha being an Avatara of Lord Vishnu. It seems that in many Buddha viharas, probably more in Sri Lanka, there are statues of Lord Vishnu, which are looked at reverentially by the Buddhists. Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa also says that there is no doubt about Lord Buddha being an Avatara of Lord Vishnu. Swami Vivekananda tells us about him very superlatively. Dr. Radhakrishnan says that he was a reformer of Hinduism. Personally, I worship him as the Avatar of  Lord Vishnu.

Remember:~

The religion, yoga, and scriptures are for the ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Wisdom is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.

Each sect concocts a God to suit its own purposes.  Such concocted Gods have no value in pursuit of the truth.  The man himself suggests that there must be a God. It is an auto-suggestion. 

Prayers and sacrifices belong to a premature stage of development. However, when no answers come to prayers, the struggle for existence presses man, and doubt arises again.  Faith in religion weakens as man pays more attention to the facts of life and this world. 

The reason is the common ground for the whole of humanity in the modern age, whereas the appeal to scriptural relations reaches only the sects.  Those who argue that truth is only in their religion are vain logicians, depending on mere ideas, speculations, and imaginations. 

The truth is a bitter pill. It becomes very difficult for the seeker to accept it at first; because of his inherited conditioning or samskaras. Gradually he will be able to grasp it as he moves on.

The illusion is present only in ignorance where 'I' and you are the separate entity. In truth, there is neither 'I' nor you, nor, the illusion. Therefore, there is no teaching, no teacher, and no student in reality.

Remember:~

Truth pursuit is a very personal journey. The seeker has to verify minutely on his own, “what is the truth? and “what is not the truth?”, before accepting anything as truth. The illusion exists as a reality, only on the base of the ego, which is the false self within the false experience.

For Gnani, who is aware of the fact that the Self is not physical but the Self is consciousness, there is no illusion, even though; he is in the midst of illusion because he is fully aware of the fact that, all three states are the consciousness.  Therefore, he is conscious of consciousness in the midst of the illusion.  

The language of the duality, invented by the within the duality, for use in the dualistic world, when used to describe non-duality, produces these apparent contradictions because, there is no apparatus in non-duality because nothing exists other than the soul, which is in the form of consciousness. 

Nonduality is the state of oneness of existence and there is no scope for anything like non-existence in the realm of non-dual truth. 

These are my personal views in pursuit of truth and it is merely sharing my views with fellow seekers and is not intended to offend anybody's religious and theoretical beliefs.

Self-knowledge has to be acquired by realizing the self is not physical but the Self is the soul, which is in the form of consciousness. Self-knowledge is the highest form of knowledge. However, this knowledge is not comprehensible for everyone because of their egocentric outlook.

Knowledge is like a path and truth is the ultimate destination. The truth is one; knowledge varies from person to person according to their ability to comprehend. This does not make a person with lower knowledge "untruthful". He or She knows as much He or She can comprehend.

That is why Swami Vivekananda:~

The masses in India cry to sixty million gods and still die like dogs. Where are these gods?

 Knowing this, stand up and fight! Not one step back that is the idea. ... Fight it out, whatever comes. Let the stars move from the sphere! Let the whole world stand against us! Death means only a change of garment. What of it? Thus, fight! You gain nothing by becoming cowards. ... Taking a step backward, you do not avoid any misfortune. You have cried to all the gods in the world. Has misery ceased? The masses in India cry to sixty million Gods and still die like dogs. Where are these gods? ... The gods come to help you when you have succeeded. So what is the use? Die game. ... This bending the knee to superstitions, this selling yourself to your own mind does not befit you, my soul. You are infinite, deathless, birthless. Because you are the infinite spirit, it does not befit you to be a slave. ... Arise! Awake! Stand up and fight! Die if you must. There is none to help you. You are the entire world. Who can help you? 
Swami Vivekananda  
(Delivered In San Francisco, on May 28, 1900) -The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda/Volume 1/Lectures And Discourses/The Gita II

Remember:~

As indicated in ISH Upanishads: - By worshipping gods and goddesses, you will go after death to the world of gods and goddesses. But will that help you? The time you spent there is wasted because if you were not there you could have spent that time moving forward towards Self-knowledge, which is your goal. In the world of gods and goddesses, you cannot do that, and thus, you go deeper and deeper into the darkness.

It clearly indicates that: -If the human goal is to acquire Self-Knowledge then why indulge in rituals and glorify the conceptual gods, goddesses, and gurus to go into deeper darkness. Instead,   spend that time moving forward towards Self-knowledge, which is one’s prime goal.  

Since it is eternal and infinite, it comprises the only truth. The goal of Vedic religion, through the various yogas, is to realize that consciousness (Atman) is actually nothing but Brahman.

The Vedic pantheon of gods is said, in the Vedas and Upanishads, to be the only higher manifestations of Brahman. For this reason, "ekam sat" (all is one), and all is Brahman.

Thus, the goal is to realize Atman (consciousness).  If Atman (consciousness) is nothing, but Brahman and by realizing Atman (consciousness) as Brahman (ultimate truth) is truth realization or Self-Realization, then there is no need to follow the religion, study scriptures or glorify gods or gurus and follow the path of doubts and confusion by losing oneself in the labyrinths of philosophy, when there is an easier path. 

By mentally tracing the source of the mind from where it rises and subsides one becomes aware of the fallacy of the mind, which rises as waking or dream and subsides as deep sleep. The mind arises from consciousness and subsides as consciousness.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

Tuesday, October 14, 2014

Upanishads say in effect that: ~ If you believe that you are one and God is another you cannot understand Truth.+




Discussion:~

Vedas are in the Vedic language which was a high-class language. Rig Veda (excluding chapters II and X) were written before the Christian Era in the Vedic language.  Vedic language is not Sanskrit.  It is the same language in which the Zoroastrian Scripture Zend Avesta is written – a form of Persian language.  All the other scriptures of India are written in Sanskrit.  

These include Rig Veda Chapter II and X and the Upanishads, Brahmanas, Puranas, and the Vedanta.  These were written during the Christian Era after the Thomas ministry. As the use of this language diminished, it became a tough language for the commoners. The priests, who were supposed to be an expert in this language, translated it into the Sanskrit language and manipulated the meanings in time, and gradually, all the practices changed.

The DaVita, Vedanta borrows the concept from Abrahamic religions, such as Eternal Damnation [of certain souls destined to hell forever] which goes against the belief of most Vedanta schools, which state that Soul attains liberation. 

It looks like the creator-creation theory is also borrowed from Abrahamic religion and on the base new belief system has been introduced giving it Vedic outlook and propagated all non-Vedic rituals and worships by someone in the past.  

St. Thomas is said to have come to India to spread Christianity in the first century AD. It first spread among the people of the Malabar coast and in areas near present-day Madras.
There is a total discontinuity in the concept of God before and after the entry of St, Thomas.  As one goes in deeper into the annals of religious history then we become aware of the fact that the Vedic gods were personifications of Nature and their worship essentially sacrifices to these Natural Forces to appease them.  All of a sudden by the first century, we encounter Vedantas.  Vedanta literally means “End of the Vedas,” though it is today interpreted as "the essence of Vedas."

Vedantas, which appeared as theological discourses, present a supreme Godhead, “Para Brahman’.  Such an idea was not even remotely conceivable in the Vedic context. 
 
New Gods like Maheshwar and Vishnu appeared.  The concept of Maheshwar.  Vishnu means Sky or Heavens.   Vishnu simply means God of the Heaven lies or one who pervades everything.   Then we have the concept of incarnation – God taking flesh in human form to save humanity.  All these suddenly appeared after the entry of St, Thomas.

This was also the time when most of the Vedic gods passed into oblivion. Their place was taken by the trinity of gods, with Brahma as the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer. It is believed that when evil is rampant, various incarnations of Vishnu enter the world of men to save them. Krishna is one such 'avatar'. 

There are many contradictions, Brahma Vishnu and Maheshwar are the three main GODs but they are one. Brahma is the creator of this universe (Generator), Vishnu is responsible for the smooth conduct of the same (sustainer), & Maheshwar is the Destroyer! But if you go and read Vishnu Purana, he is characterized as the supreme power.

Further, due to many castes and sub-castes prevailing in the society, some more rules and principles were added for the benefit of these priests. Can you imagine how would you get rid of the sin you committed by killing a cat? You will have to make a golden cat weighing equal to the dead cat and hand over this golden cat to the priest chanting for the purification of the individual soul! Hinduism is different from the Vedic religion.

New non-Vedic religion was introduced by Sage Sankara to uplift the Vedic culture and Santana Dharma, which were in ruins in the clutches of Buddhism.  New non-Vedic religion introduced by Sage Sri, Sankara was not ancient Sanatana Dharma. 

Sage Sankara endeavored toward establishing Vedic Religion overthrowing Buddhism. But even he was not able to avoid the influence of Buddhism. The influence of the revolutionary atmosphere of Buddhism reappeared in the Advaita of Sage  Sankara. His inability to revive the Vedic religion that flourished before the Buddhist revolution in its pure form is discernible.

18 Puranas are introduced in the name of Veda Vyasa. As one goes deeper into the annals of history, it indicates the fact that somewhere someone has added the Puranas in the name of Veda Vyasa the grandmaster of Vedas. It is impossible to accept and believe that Veda Vyasa authored and introduced Puranas which has all conceptual gods

Vedas reveal ONE GOD but Hinduism is filled with 33crores of gods Vedas reveal God as Spirit (Atman or Brahman ) and no form whereas Hinduism worships god in the form of various non-Vedic idols of gods and goddesses are barred by Vedas.:Santthosh Kumaar 

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Q:~  Vijay Kaura :~ Then how 33 crores Devi, Devates come into existence

It is merely a religious fable built on the false self within the false experience.

The Upanishads say in effect that: ~ If you believe that you are one and God is another you cannot understand Truth.

No conceptual God can exist, apart from consciousness. People are not aware of the fact that there is no individual God that can exist, apart from the Soul, which is in the form of consciousness. Thus, the Soul or consciousness is the true Self.   If there is no consciousness, then there is no physical body, no ego, no universe, no religion, and no conceptual God.

Brihad Upanishad: ~ “If you think there is another entity, whether man or God,  there is no truth."

People think that there must be a creator of this universe. If one thinks physical entity or ego as Self, then there is a creator, but if one thinks of the Soul as the Self, then there is nothing that exists other than consciousness, which is the Self.

If one objectifies and sees a universe, then he is bound to see many things besides himself and postulate a God, the creator. The Body, the idea of the God and world rise and set together from, and into, the Soul or consciousness, the innermost Self. If God is apart from the ‘Self ‘, then He would be Selfless, that is, outside existence, that is, non-existent.

Bhagavad Gita: ~brahmano hi pratisthaham- Brahman is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. ( 14.27)

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.

Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~    God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. He cannot be seen directly by anyone. He pervades all beings and all directions. Thus,   Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Bible says: ~ “God is a Spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:24

Mythreyi Upanishad 2:26 says: ~ All those who desire to have salvation without taking several births, should worship God in spirit and truth.  

In Vedas, God has been described as: ~

Sakshi (Witness)
 
Chetan (conscious)
 
Nirguna (Without form and properties).
 
Nitya (eternal)
 
Shuddha (pure)
 
Buddha (omniscient)
 
Mukta (unattached).

So, it clearly indicates that God is formless thus there is no scope for form-based God. The religion and its ideas of Gods, and its theories of karma, heaven, hell, papa, Punya, rebirth, and reincarnation are based on the false Self (ego), within the false experience (waking). Therefore, they are meant for a lower mindset, they are of no use for those who are seeking higher truth as indicated in the scriptures.   : ~ Santthosh Kumaar


Vijay Kaura: Thanks, Santthosh Kumaar Ji, for real discrimination of GOD

'To realize the Advaitic Truth a freer and fuller scope the seeker has to realize the form, time and space are one in essence.+



Realizing the soul as the innermost self is the beginning of all wisdom.   Spreading the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is the only universal solution, which brings unity in diversity. 

Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana will help humanity to stop wars, violence, and terrorism in the name of God and religion. Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is the only solution for universal brotherhood.   

Thus, the human goal is to realize there is no God because the universe in which we exist is created out of God, which is present in the form of the spirit.  Thus, God alone is all else mere an illusion (the universe in which we exist). 

Sage Sankara in order to acquire Self-knowledge. A perfect understanding of what is what' is needed. Nothing else is a need other than realizing the fact that, the form, time, and space are one in essence and that essence is the soul, which is present in the form of consciousness in order to get nondualistic self-awareness. 

Self-knowledge cannot be attained by the study of the scriptures and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. Therefore, there is no use in studying the scriptures and other scriptures in order to acquire non-dual wisdom. That is why Bhagvan Buddha rejected the scriptures and even Sage Sankara indicated that the ultimate truth lies beyond religion, the concept of god, and scriptures. 

There is only one Reality to be known, the same for all seekers, but the ways to it, are hidden by the religion. Self-discovery is the only way, toward the non-dualistic absolute without any religious doctrines, which will help the seekers to unfold the mystery of the illusion in which we all are searching for the truth of our true existence.

Sage Sankara VC~ 65As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it, and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

'To realize the Advaitic Truth a freer and fuller scope the seeker has to realize the form, time and space are one in essence. And that essence is consciousness. And the Soul, the Self is present in the form of consciousness. 

To realize the Advaitic truth the seeker has to be free from all superstitions and orthodox contaminations. The seeker has to be dedicated to acquiring the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana alone.'.: ~ Santthosh Kumaar