Yogic Path is not the Path of Wisdom or Gnanic Path.+

Yogic or religious truth is the individual truth, not universal.  The mystics cannot claim that they have experienced the whole.  There is no proof they have seen it because the whole is not an individual experience. The man and the world are within the whole. 

If they say, “they know from experience” they merely assume so.” mystics experience is based on ego thus it is part of the illusion. Self-realization is not an individual experience.  Yoga and mysticism are the individualized truth. If they consider the ‘I’ as the self,  they cannot know the Universal self / Atman or the whole.

The Samadhi and yogic bliss experienced on the base of the false self  (ego or the waking entity)within the false experience (waking)  is bound to be a falsehood.

When the yogi enters this highest Nirvikalpa (effort-less) Samadhi, he will at once enter deep sleep. This will make plain to him after he wakes, that the inner self he sought and found, the Atman, is reached only when all his ideas are refunded into it, when there is then all the features of non-duality, one without a second.

However, the yogi must later wake up, emerge from Samadhi and there is duality again, for the world of objects confronts him. So now he has to work on the next stage which is to find consciously in the waking experience the same non-duality that he unconsciously knew in sleep. This is done by learning that the universe is an idea or object for the formless subject, and then refunding the universe -idea back into its source, which is consciousness. Only at this final stage dare, he says "Atman(consciousness) is the same as Brahman (ultimate truth)." Now he is fully aware of it.

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All yogic visions, however, wonderful will pass away; they go as they come. They have the value of dreams. They are not the truth which is un-passing and beyond changes.

One can’t shut his eye to the universe, which confronts him as in Samadhi of yoga and see supreme reality. One can know it only by keeping himself clear and open. Sri, Sankara says:-   The yogi must add discrimination to his quest.

Nirvikalpa Samadhi and deep sleep are the same from the point of view of non-duality the absence of the known. The knower was there. How does Samadhi give Gnana? Only by preparing the mind to see that the world disappears and re-appears and, that non-duality is here and duality there, to convince the man that in non-duality one won't disappear as he doesn't disappear in Samadhi or deep sleep. Another advantage of Samadhi is one gets the capacity to forget the external world and to treat it as an idea.

Yoga can never give you the fundamental thing, that the world is an idea. Only Gnana can give it. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is unquestionably the same as deep sleep, and all ideas are refunded back there too. One must learn what ideas are when all the ideas of the universe-existence go back into one’s mind through Yoga. Then one learns this. How has he to learn that the entire universe is consciousness or Brahman if he stops at Nirvikalpa Samadhi? Without perceiving the universe, and having a duality before him, it is impossible.

Nirvikalpa has no duality, hence it cannot tell you about the universe. The yogi who emerges from Samadhi and says he found Gnana there, says it to a second person, hence there is duality again. If he were a real Gnani, there would be nobody for him to tell that he had experienced Gnana.

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Self-knowledge will interest only a few people; the rest are interested in Religion, yoga other paths, and pleasure hunting.  

It is not the body that has to get freedom, but it is the self that is seeking freedom from experiencing birth, life, death, and the universe as reality. Only when self-wakes up from the sleep of ignorance by realizing its formless nondual true nature the freedom happens. For this, it has to drop the inborn samskara or conditioning of ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ by realizing it is not ‘I’ or ‘I AM’.     

Thus, it is erroneous to think of the body base when the self is not the body. The self is not the body; therefore the individual life is nothing to do with the formless self. The experience of birth, life, death, and the universe is part and parcel of the illusion.  Thus, one need not here enter into any account of the course that the soul with its ignorance takes after death—along with the way of the fathers, or of the gods, or being debarred from either, according to its works and knowledge. Nor need one enter into any of the other psychological-eschatological questions connected with the state of the soul after the death of the body.  The self is not an individual and the Self is birthless, deathless, therefore it is erroneous to base the truth on the individual experience of birth, life, death, God, and the universe.  

Suffice it to say that the round of samsara remains for all except those who have attained the higher knowledge. He who has attained the knowledge of the identity of the self with consciousness, which involves the distinction of the self from its ignorance and consequently its freedom from them, has thereby attained Moksha, or freedom. This is a freedom for which one has not to wait till after death, but it may be possessed even in this very life. 

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Advaitin orthodox hold virtue is essential for the attainment of Moksha or freedom. But when the self is not an individual this question is hardly a relevant one. It is not quite just to interpret the knowledge which brings freedom as if it were of the nature of purely intellectual intuition. 

As one goes in deeper self –search one becomes aware of the fact that: - The Upanishads are self-contradictory. Different scholars give different conflicting interpretations of them. The final authority, therefore, is using our own reason. This does not mean one needs to give up the scriptures, but he should apply his reason to them. The Reason is common to all, whereas orthodoxy belongs to the separatist.

The scriptures are for ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Gnana is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.

Scriptural citations may be quoted only after one has shown the reality and proved the truth, for then he can point out that the texts teach the same thing. If one quotes them before having demonstrated truth, then it is scholasticism.

Scriptures are of value only when dealing with persons who are incapable of understanding the truth. They have no value as an authority for those who use reason.

The reason is the common ground for all humanity, whereas the appeal to scriptural relations reaches only groups. Because all religions are based on the false self and the false experience,  there are so many conflicting ideas, many changes, divisions, and subdivisions, which leads to all sorts of doubts and confusion.  When one meets with suffering and disappointment doubts arise. Doubts are absolutely necessary to make one inquire. The Pursuit of truth is for getting rid of all doubts.  The pursuit of truth begins with doubt, which doubts one’s own self, one’s own beliefs.

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Upanishads:~ "Those who want the ultimate truth or  Brahman will not practice control of the mind.  (Manduka p.231).

One who knows the universe as an illusion by making use of reason becomes aware of ‘what is the truth’ and ‘what is untruth’. One who loses touch with the external world and gives himself over to his thoughts alone takes the illusory world to be a reality and remains in ignorance believing the experience of birth, life, and death as a reality.

Both sides of the experience have to be inquired into—waking or dream and deep sleep and also the matter and the Spirit to find the truth hidden by the ignorance. 

Yogi avoids external inquiry, hence cannot find the truth. If he thinks he does not see the world by shutting his eyes and omitting it from his thought, he is ignorant and not a Gnani. If there is nothing to be seen, if the mere absence of the universe from cognition gave self-knowledge, then every creature would attain the knowledge of the truth because it loses the universe n deep sleep.

It is not possible by mental control alone, by yoga, to realize the ultimate truth, but at best one falls into sleep. It is like draining an ocean drop by drop, to try the yogic way. When the yogi shuts his eyes and does not see the universe because he takes that universe as real but only his body is unreal. He does not examine the phenomenal universe and hence cannot realize the ultimate truth.

The people who speak of knowing, seeing, existing, intuiting the second being--God, betrays thereby, that he is of limited intelligence; unable to grasp the non-dualistic truth.

People who talk of sending spiritual telepathic waves or energies to help the world are only a mind game. People do not want the reason, but blind faith.

The whole universe must be included in the inquiry. Gnana cannot come if anything is left out. Only when all is known can all be known to be but ideation. Hence yogis blotting all out in Samadhi cannot lead to Gnana.

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 The ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ thought, the ego belongs to the duality as does the universe thought. The yogi may get the knowledge that the formless witness (subject) is separate from three states [object], but he will never know the ultimate truth or Brahman, without inquiring into the universe, because he is giving up the universe, and hence cannot discover his unity with the universe or diversity. The Gnani regards everything in the universe as consciousness, which is the ultimate truth or Brahman; the yogi rejects the universe. Thus, there is a fundamental difference.

Yoga is alright so far as it goes, but one has to look at the world, which confronts him. Everyone has to eat and they have to attend to all these physical necessities of the body. Therefore, no yogi can remain without ideas in Samadhi thro' out the 24 hours. Once out of Samadhi he is like every other ignorant man unless he indulges in deeper self-search.

As soon as the yogi comes down from Samadhi he finds the world that confronts him to be real. If he did not why does he seek their food again?

People who say the world is unreal are like the fox in the sour grapes in the fable.  The people do not know ‘What mind is?’  ‘What the universe is?’, and are unable to prove that, hence their glib statement is worthless, not proceeding from the understanding, or realization of the  Mind's true nature, following the inquiry into it, but proceeding from some feeling of disappointment.

Without knowing what is the mind and what is the substance of the mind and without inquiry into the universe that confronts him and its nature i.e. matter, there can be no such thing as Gnana.

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The yogi assumes that he has realized the ultimate truth or Brahman. And he claims he realized it through by practicing Samadhi.

A  Gnani can explain what the ultimate truth is,  but a yogi says his experience of Samadhi is the ultimate state or Brahman. The yogic literature says this mystic experience is liberation.” People being self-deluded accept and indulge in practicing Samadhi without verifying the validity of the claim if they are true.

People say that they enjoy mystic exaltation, trances, meditations, and peace by practicing yoga for many years. Then this state passed away. This proves he had attained a yogic condition, but not Gnana. It vanished because it was not the highest insight. The Gnani however never loses his Gnana. Dislodging a Gnani from his insight is an impossibility. Once he has thoroughly seen the truth he simply can't fall away from it.

Many claim that they are enjoying mystic exaltation and peace, but whether it passes away soon or endures the whole of life, it is not Gnana, because it did not come through striving to investigate the nature of the mind and universe, it came only through meditation on the self; that is the yogic reward for such meditation, but it is only one half. The Gnani not only gets such inner peace but also the truth because he has turned outwards also and grasped the truth about the matter, which is as much consciousness as the Self.

Yogi and mystics are immersed in their selves, but they do not understand that that is only one-half of the truth and that this immersing is also a mental discipline to fit their minds to understand the true nature of the mind or universe, which confronts them, which understanding they must next get if they are to become Gnani.

Gita, Chap.XII Krishna tells Arjuna: ~ "The knowledge of both matter and Spirit is the True knowledge.

Everyone has the inborn conviction or samskara that, he is an individual separate from the world and the world that existed prior to him the born in this world afterward.  Until this conviction is where the ignorance is there.   Until ignorance is there one thinks he is living in this world, and he has to eat and move and work in the external environment. No one can get away from it. It is one’s life.  But one is unaware of the fact that the universe in which man experiences his individual life as reality itself is merely an illusion.  This illusion is experienced as reality due to ignorance.  Thus, one has to get rid of ignorance to realize our experience of birth, life, death, and the world is a falsehood.     Therefore, we ought to know, understand and grasp on what standpoint the universe is an illusion to realize what is real and what is unreal.  The yogi or mystic who refuses to do so is refusing to face the whole of reality.  Visions and Samadhis are illusions from the ultimate point of view.

In Sutra Bashya and Manduka:~  Samadhi and sleep are identical.   And also Brihad Upanishad does not advocate Samadhi.

It is not possible to stop thought for more than a half-second whilst in the waking experience. If one succeeds in controlling thought and then banishes it, one passes into Nirvikalpa Samadhi, which is identical to deep sleep. The only difference between ordinary deep sleep and Samadhi,  therefore,  is that the ordinary man falls asleep involuntarily whereas the yogi has the satisfaction of knowing that he has passed into sleep by his own effort of will in banishing thoughts.

Patanjali warns against sleep as a hindrance to yoga, he means when it occurs in the early stages of the practice before one has obtained the power of control and consequently to banish the thoughts. The fact that Samadhi is deep sleep is kept secret because people would not be tempted to take up yoga. Then what is the value of it? Why, to sharpen the mind, to enable it to keep away all extraneous thoughts when one gets out to reason in the practice of the next higher stage, i.e. Gnana.

 Yoga is thus simply a sharpening stone for the mind to enable it to take up Gnana. Living without thoughts is Impossible. The very thoughtless state itself is a thought.  Holding the thoughtless thought and entering the Samadhi is impossible without the thought of thoughtlessness. How can one enter the Samadhi without the thought of thoughtlessness?   He does not know the Gnanic truth if he says thoughtlessness is the perfect stage of self.

When thoughts are stilled, it is not the Self that is found. It is only the mind. Thus, Yogic Samadhi is not Gnana and therefore yogi does not know the highest truth. Yoga is good to give peace and concentration, but only to start reasoning, i.e. thinking again to find the truth.

Yogic Samadhi is not the goal but a means to an end, i.e. Gnana. Samadhi in itself is useless because the mind is withdrawn and there is no memory of it until after it is over and one returns to waking experience.  Yogi who attains Samadhi: it is only sleep.

Yogi who is said to experience non-duality in his ecstasy must still come back to the normal state and see the world confronts him, after his ecstasy. And then he will find that the world separates from him because he has ignored it and not tried to understand it. Only the Gnani can say of the external world, "This is Brahman, Mind." and prove his statement, and that it is none other than the Soul, the Self.

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Many yogis are largely pretenders or self-deluded. They think they are masters who can lead the whole of humanity. They set themselves up as different from others. Many yogis promise blessings etc. to those who surrender their wealth or person to them. Many here live questionable lives with women disciples.  They seek influence over others, or wealth, by thus differentiating themselves.  They market their yogic products in the spiritual supermarket.  A Gnani never does this.

If a yogi says "I feel Bliss" who is having the experience? His 'I' is the ego. Hence that is not the highest Gnana.  If one carefully examines the experiences of mystics, then he finds that they do differ. It is superficial to say that yogis and mystics all have the same experience.

In the dream, one knows that the dream figures are also the mind not different from it; similarly, when one knows that everything is consciousness, there is no need for the yogic control of the mind. Control presupposes second, a duality. Hence yoga is in the sphere of duality and is unnecessary to one who knows non-duality.

Self-Knowledge requires the mind to be active to examine the world and discriminate. Hence, nondual wisdom means knowing that there are no ideas different from the innermost self, which is in the form of consciousness, as the dream mountain is not different from Mind, knowing which they automatically the mind reaches stillness. This is different from Yogic Samadhi, which is only deep sleep.

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The Yogis and Mystics want meditation, sitting still, etc. only because it gives them pleasure: the satisfaction is for their own selves only, not others; hence it is something sought by the ego and cannot get the ultimate truth or Brahman in consequence.

The Yogi wants to do something, some action, even that of sitting still, to control this or concentrate that. This means he is still attached to his physical body. He wants his physical body to be quiet. He is still thinking of an illusory physical body. He does not know that the physical body is part of the mirage. On the contrary, he takes it for reality.

The world must be seen before one can know its true nature in Gnana. The yogi, who shuts it out, thereby deprives himself of the opportunity to achieve Gnana.

The yogi must go to the ashram, some special place, some cave, or other. Whoever must sit in a posture is attached to the body.

The inquiry must begin with duality, i.e. with the world to inquire into. It will end with unity. The Yogi tries to avoid this duality by ignoring the universe. Hence, he gets a false unity only.

The seekers of truth will inquire and practice discrimination.  The ultimate truth has to be attained not by intuition but by reason, which is superior to it. Not even a combination of intellect and intuition will find the truth.

Yoga will only let one know what he imagines. Self-Knowledge is the sum of all sciences. Scientists think only of the external world, the seekers of truth the inner self. Both are needed. Answers to prayers are imagination, due to chance.  Religion and Yoga are useful from utilitarian viewpoints but from the point of view of seeking the truth, they are useless. Yoga belief is a self-mesmeric condition out of which it is extremely difficult to escape. 

Yoga has its place rather than its value and its value is for a certain type of mindset.  Yoga will remove restlessness, receptiveness, but never Truth because it ignores the external world.  Yoga cannot remove ignorance. It is only a step. It removes obstructions. 

Yoga can yield only the duality because everything that one can do or practice becomes a vanishing 'known.' It yields relative truth, i.e. true from a particular viewpoint, not the ultimate truth.

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Yoga implies duality! Yoga = joining two things, something to which the yogi is to be joined. He thinks I want to know God, I want to attain Union. So he has the ego and cannot attain it. Whereas the first thing in the path of truth is to question the ‘I’ until its illusory nature is perceived and the seeker no longer says "I want to attain the ultimate truth." One has nothing to get for the self, as it has vanished on inquiry, not even will he say I will work for the sake the humanity.

The ordinary yogi follows yoga, wants to sit in a place and think "I’ am shutting my eyes, ‘I’ am sitting in a room, ‘I’ am meditating." This egoistic yoga has nothing to do with Gnana. (This has been pointed out even in Mandukya Upanishad - p.229-30)

The yogi is always thinking in terms of me and mine. He always thinks of what he is to get from his practice; whereas, in pursuit of truth, the seeker first examines and gets rid of this ‘I’ by the inquiry for he wants the truth, not something for the self.  The yogi says 'I’ want to gain Samadhi”. A Gnani wants to gain nothing for he knows, ‘I’ is the mind. And the mind is in the form of the whole universe.  The universe appears as waking or dream and diapers as deep sleep.  The formless substance and witness of the three states are the consciousness, which is the Self. The Self is the ultimate truth and the ultimate truth is Brahman or God in truth.

Suppose one says the self is the energy then he has to become aware of that energy, which is the cause of the universe and its contents without the forms and names. When one becomes one’s body and his experience of the universe itself is merely an illusion created out of energy then he will become aware of the fact there is no other energy other than consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth.  The ultimate truth is the innermost self.  The innermost self is Brahman or God in truth.

Yoga and religion are egocentric. Egocentricity is individuality.  Individuality is the cause of duality. Duality is caused by ignorance. Ignorance is the cause of experiencing the illusion as reality. Yoga bases itself on the ego and does not kill it. The Gnani alone can conquer the ego which he does by penetrating the understanding of its illusory nature.

All ecstasy exalted feeling is a reality within the illusion. And the illusion is something known. Whatever is known is and objects. The subject is a formless substance and witness of the object. Thus, the universe is an object.  Thus, one has to find the formless subject to unfold the mystery of the universe.

Yoga practice is that it temporarily suppresses the ego. What the yogi does not understand is that while he talks of experiencing bliss in trance, he reveals the presence of an ego which is the experiencer.  Thus, his experience of the bliss and trace is individual whereas the self is not individual it pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states. To transcend bliss and to transcend trance, one must have gone into, through, and out of Yoga.

Yoga lulls the ego to sleep, but it will reappear when the practice is ended, the only way to overcome the ego is to realize ‘What is mind? ‘What is the substance of the mind?’ and ‘What is the source of the mind?’.

It is not enough to see a mere nothingness. One has to see consciousness as the universal self, which pervades in everything and everywhere in all three states. One is free from ignorance not when he sees nothing at all, as in Yoga but only when he sees this entire universe as consciousness, which is the true self. Hence,  the seeker must ask the question “What is this universe?” to realize the ultimate truth or Brahman.

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Sage Sankara says:~  Yoga is not the means of liberation (page 132-133 of his commentary on Brihadaranyakopanishad)

Neither Yogic Samadhi nor bliss or worldly pleasure should be allowed to draw one away from evenness; for neither can give ultimate truth or Brahman. When one is distracted by either, either internal or external bliss, it should by effort be drawn back to steadiness, evenness. This state alone yields the ultimate truth or Brahman.  Intellectually knowing the truth is only an imagination, whereas realizing the truth knows it as such.

Yogis assume that thoughtlessness will give the experience of ultimate reality. How can one keep out a portion of consciousness? It is utterly impossible. It is erroneous to say that such thoughtlessness experience is possible Moreover even if it were possible, what is it that the yogi will keep out? They will only be keeping out reality! The universe is none other than consciousness, as everything is consciousness. The yogi has got the idea of duality and therefore cannot realize the truth.

Even the mind, which is in the form of the universe disappears in deep sleep. The mind is changing and unreal. It passes away every moment. The consciousness appears as waking or dream (mind) and disappears as deep sleep (no mind).  

The yogic experience of bliss is not wisdom, for Bliss is something one has to experience, therefore it will have to go as it came; hence it is only part of the duality. A duality is an object to the formless subject. Yogis seek bliss through ignorance because he has accepted the ‘I’ as the self.

The yogi who wants to go to mountains or an ashram to acquire Self–knowledge has not risen above thinking of his body, and will not be able to acquire Self-knowledge. For he wants to take his body from one place to another in the belief this will bring the realization of the self.

Yogis make the fundamental mistake of assuming that these are things meditation or actions which are other than consciousness. The very idea they concentrate on is itself consciousness and hence needs no special effort. It is impossible to treat the mind as different from the soul, which is in the form of consciousness. Awareness i.e. consciousness must be there prior to all attempts to control the mind: therefore, it is a fallacy to believe that any yogic exercise can create this awareness, this knowledge of the Self.

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Katha Upanishad:~ says~ "Atman is meditated upon as the size of the thumb in heart" i.e. for yogis who cannot concentrate without a concrete picture, such an idea is useful.  (Chap.4 V.12)

Some sages declared Atman was in the heart, later with Patanjali in the lotus in the head.

If in the head it showed ignorance of the relation between mind and brain.   When self, which is consciousness is immeasurable then how one can localize the mind.  The consciousness is not limited to the head or heart because it pervades the whole universe.  All these statements must not be believed but verified because deeper self-search reveals the fact that, the self is formless, therefore question heart, brain, the mind does not arise.

When Yogi comes out of Nirvikalpa Samadhi then immediate duality confronts him again. His peace goes, for it depended on the non-duality of Samadhi sleep. Hence no yogi attains true peace but imagines it.

When one sees the second thing and even though seeing it know it to be consciousness, then he gets Gnana. On the other hand, Nirvikalpa Samadhi is the non-seeing of the second thing; hence cannot yield Gnana, for the yogi does not see and does not know what the universe is.

If one grasps and understands and assimilates non-duality then it is impossible to have any doubt. And doubt is the essence of error, mistake, and delusion. Those who are not established in non-duality have to guess or imagine, i.e. doubt.

Yogi says everything is Brahman, but cannot prove it. The Gnani says the same thing; even this universe is Brahman, but he can prove it.

If one feels ecstatic or exalted peace in the presence of a yogi or mystic is not the truth it is mere feeling. People, who are disturbed, agitated, troubled, unhappy find tranquility at Ashrams, because there was restlessness, probably over the business, family or finance, etc. But that is because they do not know the truth and they mistake this peace for Brahman or ultimate truth. It merely indicates the state of mind possessed on arrival at Ashram; they had a mental disease and the ashram cured it for the time. There is no permanent cure however without Gnana, and Yoga does not yield Gnana.

If one is imaginative or poetic, mysticism and religion are suitable for him, but not the path of wisdom.   In religion, there is an element of imagination. Ordinary people have limited a view and they like their religion because it gives them some sort of satisfaction and pleases their taste.  Wisdom discards religion and yoga because they are based on the false self and false experience.

Emancipation can occur without yoga. What can be done by yoga can be done by Gnana? Yoga alone leads to Samadhi, but Gnana also liberates one from experiencing the illusory experience of birth, life, death, and the world as reality.

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If it is said that one gets Gnana in yogic Samadhi in which there is no duality, it is no better than deep sleep. If it is said that there is a direct cognition in profound contemplation in which there is no difference between the perceiver and the perceived and in which no duality can occur; then why not admit the same in deep slumber.  If it is objected that, there is no knowledge of the nature of self [soul or Atman] in deep sleep, then one admits that Self-knowledge only is true knowledge and not the absence of duality.

That consciousness remains as the sole real factor, means that there should be self – realization that is, Consciousness as the sole entity and not merely an absence of the cognition of the universe; otherwise, there would be no such thing as emancipation in this life.

Those people, who talk of experiencing the supreme reality, do not know that the word experience implies something else, a second to be experienced, i.e. duality, i.e. non-reality, and those who talk of "direct knowledge" of reality again do not perceive that knowledge implies a second thing to be known; i.e. duality exists. i.e. no reality here!

To know the supreme reality means to know the complete negating of all that is not this reality. Hence, one does not make an object of it.

The notion of attaining Nirvikalpa Samadhi, complete blankness, non-seeing the universe is for those who are still infancy stages in their pursuit of truth. The universe must be seen but known for what it is, mental.

Many yogis teach that Brahman is in the top chakra of the skull; therefore we have to ascend there. This is merely an imaginary theory based on the false self or ego. Nirvikalpa Samadhi helps one to renounce attachments, it is a corrective medicine to remove this disease; hence, it is for seekers only who are still on the disciplinary or infancy level. Peace of mind does not necessarily indicate truth; one can get it by taking opium or ganja.

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Yogic Samadhi cannot get one Gnana. Yoga is useful in the preparatory stages. Realization through ’ yoga is merely bait to seekers to adopt his preliminary state, but it is not literally true. Yoga cannot give Gnana. Those with weak minds tire soon and cannot keep up the concentrated inquiry into the truth, the three states, etc. without which one cannot grasp nonduality and their real meaning.

Some texts in some of the Upanishads which assert that the soul returns to Brahman in Samadhi are another form, a different standpoint. When one sees all the three states, that is one standpoint, but when he is in waking experience and takes his stand on that, the view is lower and different. If the opponent says the world is real from waking experience, then a different argument is given to him from one who can understand Manduka Upanishad and see it as an idea. Manduka Upanishads alone give the ultimate truth basis. The other Upanishads treat from a lower standpoint to help beginners.

One who is in Samadhi will not know that this universe is consciousness; therefore yoga is not the means to Self-knowledge. In Samadhi the yogi knows nothing, sees no universe; so if there is nothing whatever, how can the yogi know that the universe which is something is consciousness? If the universe is not seen in Samadhi then why are the word Atman and Brahman are used?

By shutting his eyes in Samadhi yogi does not know the universe, which confronts him. Hence, the universe can't be known as Brahman through yoga alone. One is in a non-dual condition in sleep or Samadhi, One without a second, true, but he did not know it at the time. You say only in the waking experience afterward. Hence, there must be an inquiry so that you find non-duality whilst you are awake so that you can see non-duality at the time not afterward. Hence, too the need for inquiring into the universe and knowing it as Brahman whilst one is awake, and not during sleep or Samadhi.

When can one say there is no error in his knowledge? When one sees all three states as the consciousness, which is the true self; then there will be no doubt. Hence, one must see the beings and objects, if he is to see them as consciousness, the true self. But sleep and Samadhi does not show them to him. Hence their knowledge is not perfect, not free from error and doubt.

The completion of the course of Yoga, whether Raja or Dhyana leads as Patanjali rightly says in sloka 1 to stopping of all ideation. When this is attained, only one thing can then occur--the yogi will enter a condition like sleep. "Like," because he will have done it by set effort and voluntarily, whereas ordinary man falls into sleep involuntarily and when Patanjali lists sleep as one of the five hindrances, he means that while a practitioner is still struggling and has not yet attained his goal of concentration, naturally to fall asleep prematurely is a sign of failure.

The ignorant emerging from deep sleep does not regard his body and his experience of the world as consciousness, which is the true self, but he thinks he is an individual separate from the world. Hence he feels duality as reality, similarly, to the yogi. The one, who does not see duality, can have no Gnana. A Gnani sees and says all this is an illusion made out of consciousness, which is the true self. Hence there is unity in diversity, whereas, the yogi who enters Samadhi or sleep has none to start with.

Gnanic Samadhi is Sahaja Samadhi that is the natural state of the Self. In natural states in which the Self is in full wakefulness, and then one asks what is meant by this universe, the universe is seen in this Sahaja Samadhi. Whereas Yogic or Nirvikalpa Samadhi is just like swoon or deep sleep, where one is unaware of anything, not even the universe. (See page 640,641 and verse 132,133 of Tattireya Upanishads and panchadeshi regarding this).:~Santthosh Kumaar 

Sage Sankara says :~ The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown.+

Sage Sankara said: ~ Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way. (1) VivekaChudamani v 56, pg 25

Vedanta is that Lord teaches us in the Gita and in it he lashes out against the karmakanda. It is generally believed that the Buddha and Mahavira were the first to attack the Vedas.

It is not so. Lord Krishna himself spoke against them long before these two religious leaders. At one place in the Gita, he says to Arjuna: "The Vedas are associated with the three qualities of sattva, rajas, and tamas.

You must transcend these three qualities. Full of desire, they (the practitioners of Vedic rituals) long for paradise and keep thinking of pleasures and material prosperity. They are born again and again and their minds are never fixed in Samadhi, these men clinging to Vedic rituals. “In another passage Lord Krishna says: "Not by the Vedas is self to be realized, nor by sacrifices nor by much study. . . . "

Sage Sankara says: ~VC~59 ~ The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.

When  Great Sage Sankara indicates that scriptural studies are useless in the pursuit of truth, then why seekers of truth must indulge in scriptural studies and waste their precious time and life.   

Upanishads also confirms this:~   

Katha Upanishads: ~ This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. ( Ch-II -23-P-20)

Mundaka Upanishad: ~  This Atman cannot be attained through study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained. It is Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. (3 –page-70 Mundaka Upanishad  Upanishads by Nikilanada)

The scriptures indicate that Atman is Brahman, and Brahman is the ultimate truth. Therefore, the soul, which is in the form of consciousness, is the ultimate truth.  Thus realizing the ultimate truth is the prime goal.   A well-directed inquiry, analysis, and reasoning will lead one to his non-dual destination. 

Self-Realization is a direct realization of the ultimate truth or real god, in contrast with traditional paths, which are indirect. And the other paths cannot lead to the ultimate destination because they are based on the false self, which they hold as the real Self and false experience as reality.  

 Scriptures are being added from time to time. This process will go on. There is the final authority among them? One contradicts the other: duality reigns supreme.

Bhagavan Buddha rejected Vedas, religion, and the concept of God

Bhagavan Buddha said: ~ Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.

Seeker of truth has to get rid of his doubts through deeper self-search on his own, to realize the fact that, the self is not the form but the Self is formless. Thus, his analysis and reasoning have to be based on the formless, not on the form.  Simply going on believing and accepting whatever is said by the punditry will not lead one towards the path of wisdom. All the doubt has to be got rid of "by the sword of Self - Knowledge."  The scriptures, and yoga are not necessary if one follows the inner (mental) path.  Religion and yoga are not the means to the path of wisdom.  

 The scriptural citation may be quoted in pursuit of truth as authoritative only after one has verified them deeply and shown the reality and proved the truth, for then he can point out that the texts teach the same thing. If one quotes them before having demonstrated truth, then it is scholasticism or punditry.

Then it is no use going a roundabout way, trace the Brahman which is the formless substance, and witness of the universe, which is in the form of the mind.  By tracing the source of the mind or universe one will be able to realize the Brahman. 

Thus, self-knowledge is meant only for those who have an intense urge, and courage to accept the truth with humility and reject the untruth. Since people start comparing their scriptural knowledge, it becomes impossible to assimilate and realize the non-dual truth.   Therefore, there is no need to convince anyone other than our own selves to get a firm conviction. 

Advaitic Wisdom is that which liberates one from experiencing the illusion [waking] as reality-- this is the criterion of truth. Pundits don't appear to be liberated, they look enslaved. They talk about liberation, but they don't look free. They seem to be bound with a thousand fetters. 

Orthodox people are more enslaved than others because they live in a self-imposed prison. A householder may have a little freedom, but the gurus, yogis saints are more stuck with their own idea of truth than others. Orthodoxies are just blind followers of tradition. They cannot move freely, they cannot sit freely, and they cannot live freely. 

Many people pretend they are self-realized just by being orthodox one cannot get liberation.  Because yogi practices Samadhi he will not get liberated. Everyone has their own idea of liberation. 

The most important thing is that neither society nor politics nor any religion has anything to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman. Self –Knowledge helps the seeker transcend emotion, transcending form, time, and space. Perhaps this is why the pursuit of truth, has not had much impact. 

There is no wisdom whatsoever in this. Scriptures are just a collection of words. Thus, wisdom is not found in the scriptures. Wisdom is within oneself. The truth is not found in words.  Truth is within oneself." 

The scriptures are filled just with information. By accumulating information one cannot attain wisdom.  No matter how much one knows, wisdom is not attained. One can go on gathering more and more knowledge, learn the scriptures by heart, become parrots, memorize each and every sutra or stanza, and let the complete Vedas be imprinted in his memory -- but still, the wisdom will not dawn. 

People think that mastering scriptural knowledge is wisdom.  Pundits and religious gurus call scriptural knowledge as wisdom. Scriptural knowledge binds one instead thus it is not liberation.  Wisdom is that which liberates one from experiencing the duality as reality.

That is why Sage Sankara says in Bhaja Govindam: ~ (Jnana Viheena Sarva Mathena Bajathi na Muktim janma Shatena) - one without knowledge does not obtain liberation even in a hundred births, no matter which religious faith he follows. 

Sage Sankara says ~  59. The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.

60. The Scriptures consisting of many words are a dense forest that merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence men of wisdom should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self.

61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae), and medicines to such a one?

62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utters the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realization one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.

63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the Self, how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.

64. Without killing one’s enemies, and possessing oneself of the splendor of the entire surrounding region, one cannot claim to be an emperor by merely saying, ‘I am an emperor’.

65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it, and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

66. Therefore, the wise should, as in the case of disease and the like, personally strive by all the means in their power to be free from the bondage of repeated births and deaths.

Thus, Sage Sankara clearly indicated that: - yoga, intellectualism, and scriptural mastery is not the means to self-knowledge.  But by the realization of one's identity with consciousness, which is the ultimate truth or Brahman, freedom from experiencing the illusion as reality is possible, and by no other means.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

When there is no other Guru but our own Soul than there is no need for the physical Guru.+

Swami Vivekananda said: - “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own soul.”

When there is no other teacher but our own Soul then there is no need for the physical guru.

Religious or yogic gurus propagate that: once a seeker identifies a Guru, he must totally surrender to the Guru and then from there onwards, the spiritual journey is fully Guru's responsibility, not his... Hence, the importance of choosing the right Guru is necessary, but in pursuit of truth, the guru is not necessary because the truth is not theoretical.  Truth has to be ascertained by the seeker on his own through a well-directed inquiry, analysis, and reasoning based on the true self, which will lead the seeker to his destination.    

People who worship the guru as God in human form and there is a danger that they might establish a regular religious sect in his name.  This is an unhappy development of the religious movement. 

As one goes deeper self-search one finds the fact that - Celibacy and living in a monastery was always strange to Vedic religion. In fact, almost all the great sages of Puranas and Vedas were householders. Observing celibacy and the monastery system in Vedic religion is the influence of Buddhism and Jainism. 

Hinduism is a mixture of Vedic, Jain and Buddhist and many other ideologies.  The pure essence of Sanatan Dharma is lost by adopting the ideology of many other ideologies.  

Orthodoxy recommends celibacy to sanyasis  Many saints followed this trend. People think that to be a Hindu sage has to observe celibacy but this concept was not there in Vedic religion.  Thus, the Hindu religion has become a hotchpotch of many ideologies.  

People believe that if a Swamiji, indulges in sex activity he is doing a sin. And they also believe that a Swamiji and gurus should never marry and observe celibacy. If they fail to do so they are not fit to continue as Sanyasis.

Sex is a human instinct like hunger. Swamiji is forced to observe celibacy, which is against human nature. Only a few will succeed in this venture and others carry on secretly indulge in their sexual venture until it comes to the limelight.   

Many Swamijis in the past got married after resigning from swamis’ order. Many times this became a public debate, but these people were soon forgotten. There are many Self-declared Swamijis with religious robes and indulge in the accumulation of wealth and indulging in sex and all sorts of immoral and criminal activities happenings in their Ashrams and retreats.

Many Swamijis indulge in sex with their disciples. Once this is brought to the knowledge of people, people start reacting negatively.  Public memory is very short. People talk about all scandals for some time and later they forget about it. 

There is a need to do deeper research on Vedic religion and bifurcate the present Hindu religion, which is mixed-up with Buddhism, Jainism and also the idea adopted from other ideologies to know the pure essence of Vedas. 

It is also necessary to verify the validity of dual and non-dual ideologies, which are based on Vedas to know they are mere add-ons. The original Sanatan Dharma was without all these ideologies.    

Swamis or gurus who claim themselves to be God and people worship and glorify them as God in human form.  They are trying to establish a regular religious sect of their own by taking advantage of the mass mindset, which accepts to believe anyone who is propagating about their religion and god as avatars.  This is an unhappy development of the Hindutva. 

There can be no correct exposition in the Upanishads unless the guru has had experience of the truth. Otherwise, it is merely adding words to words.  The sage will not do immoral things that are impossible. 

It is difficult for people to understand such texts as, “God, Guru and the 'Self' are one." No one raises voice against the practice of deifying the Guru they think it is against their religion and tradition.

 If god, guru, and the 'Self' are one -- it means the Self is Atman and Atman is god and guru, not the body.  Thus, one who thinks himself as a guru is considered the Self as body and allows people to worship his body as God, thus, he is not God because he is not aware of the fact that, the self is the formless  Atman or consciousness.

There are few people who are able to think beyond physicality voice against the practice of deifying the Guru.

The traditional Hindu attitude towards the Guru is glorifying him as God. It is necessary to verify the facts on this subject at some length. This does not refer to anyone in particular.  The present verification of facts in general and irrespective of any particular person and their beliefs.

Hindu religious literature is full of such aphorisms as:~

There is no higher deity than the Guru'

The Guru is the ultimate Truth and Deity

God and Avatars (incarnations) are secondary to the Guru in importance

There is no higher refuge, no higher target, no higher destination than the Guru

The Guru is God Himself

God and the Guru are one 

He who makes a distinction between the Guru and God is ignorant and stupid and scores of similar others.  Some celebrated philosopher-saints like Jnandev, Eknath and so many others all over India have offered their first salutations to the Guru in their various books.

A good deal of chaos prevails in Hinduism. It has an ever-increasing number of Avatar as and Gurus installed as God Himself, with the support and sanction of scriptures and teachings of saints and sages in the past.  The crooks take advantage of the innocence of the masses and pretend to be god or godmen.

Denunciation of the practice of glorifying the Guru as God is an impossibility because people are sentimentally and emotionally involved with their inherited religious belief.

Brahmacharya, monastic celibacy, is the complete abstinence from sex, which is only incumbent upon monastics. Householders practice monogamy as a way to uphold Brahmacharya in spirit.

"Non-possession", is the renunciation of property and wealth, before initiation into sanyasa, without entertaining thoughts of the things renounced. This is done so one understands how to detach oneself from things and possessions, including home and family so one may reach Moksha.

 For householders, non-possession is owning without attachment, because the notion of possession is illusory. The reality of life is that change is constant; thus, objects owned by someone today will be the property of someone else in future days. The householder is encouraged to discharge his or her duties to related people and objects as a trustee, without excessive attachment.

Since the guru is bound to follow some ethics and code of conduct prescribed in scriptures; the immoral acts of gurus are harmful, as they might cause doubt and confusion in the minds of many people, who strive with simple faith and earnestness to practice the discipline for enlightenment and Self-development. 

Thus, gurus have to be accountable for all his acts and actions because they are bound by religion and their religious code of conducts. 

Isa Upanishad says: By worshipping gods and goddesses you will go after death to the world of gods and goddesses. But will that help you? The time you spend there is wasted because if you were not there you could have spent that time moving forward towards Self-knowledge, which is your goal. In the world of gods and goddesses, you cannot do that, and thus you go deeper and deeper into the darkness.

Thus the Upanishad indicates that true goal is to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

Ramana Maharishi said: The sadguru is within.

Questioner: I am always at your feet. Will Bhagavan give us some upadesa (teaching) to follow? Otherwise, how can I get help living 600 miles away?

 Ramana Maharshi: The Sadguru (the true guru) is within.


Questioner: Sadguru is necessary to guide me to understand it.

 Ramana Maharshi: The sadguru is within.


Questioner: I want a visible Guru.

 Ramana Maharshi: That visible Guru says that he is within.

If one is seeking truth then one has to think deeply.

Sage Raman Maharishi said the guru is within. So he referred to the Self or Atman as a guru, not the physical apparatus.  This seeker has to focus his attention on the self or Atman, which is in the form of consciousness.    

Thus,  glorifying gurus’ form is erroneous, because the body and the universe are a myth from the ultimate standpoint. Thus, indulging in glorifying and worshiping of myth becomes the greatest obstacle in the pursuit of truth.  

Thus, the seeker has to identify the true self as a guru and proceed in his spiritual endeavor.   

The inner grace of the inner guru (Soul, the Self) will guide them until his ignorance disappears and he realizes his body and the universe is merely an illusion created out of consciousness, which is the true Self.    :~Santthosh Kumaar 

The Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara arises from perfect understanding, assimilation, and realization of the truth hidden by ignorance.+

Some people indulge in criticizing and finding fault. Such people are unfit to acquire the Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara.

Swami Vivekananda: ~ “The wicked are always looking for defects. Flies come and seek the ulcer, and bees come only for the honey in the flower. Do not follow the way of the fly but that of the bee.

The Advaitic wisdom is not suited for the unsettled mind, which is stuck to their own opinion and judgment based on their accumulated knowledge. There is no use in convincing such a mindset. Everyone is free to move on his chosen path.

The look of an object will depend upon the medium through which the observer views it. In fact, our mental and intellectual conditions determine the world, observed and experienced. The commoner viewing the world will see differently from a Gnani viewing the same world. Each one interprets the world that they see in terms of their existing knowledge. The commoner sees everything based on the ego, therefore, experiences the birth, life, death, and the world as a reality, whereas a Gnani sees everything as consciousness and he is fully aware of the fact that, there is no second thing that exists other than the Soul or consciousness.

Thus, all the egocentric knowledge has to be bifurcated to realize the ultimate truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.

Remember:~

The Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara arises from perfect understanding, assimilation, and realization of the truth hidden by ignorance. 

Self-knowledge will not arise from the exchange of views and opinions and arguments. The accumulated knowledge is not a yardstick, to realize the truth beyond the form, time, and space.

In the path of wisdom discussion of the unimportant subject matter creates a hindrance. 

The path of truth is the path of verification. Nothing has to be accepted as truth without verification. Agreeing to disagree causes unnecessary friction.

Sharing is giving info for the sake of goodness. As with all things, achieving a balance of peaceful communications is established with respect, humility, understanding, and patience. Balancing an achievement is harder.

The seeker has to stop passing unimportant opinions in this Atmic path. Atmic path is not the path of discussion, but the path of realization of the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. 

There is only one Reality to be known, the same for all seekers, but the ways to it, are hidden by the religion. Self-discovery is the only way, toward non-dual Absolute without any religious doctrines, which will help the seekers to unfold the mystery of the illusion in which we all are searching for the truth of our true existence.

In the Atmic path, there is nothing to criticize and nothing to argue, and nothing to discuss because there is no second thing that exists other than the Soul, which is nondual. 

First, realize what the Self is in actuality. Amazingly an honest introspection will reveal that all fault lies with “you” and “your "own perceptions and attitudes. If there is an error in understanding what 'Self' is in actuality it is in " you".

Correcting this and changing to a Soulcentric attitude will change your perception and then the Soul, the 'Self' will reveal its formless, timeless, and spaceless true nature.

Sage Sankara: ~ ‘Reality can be realized only with the eye of understanding, not just by a scholar. What the moon is like must be seen with one's own eyes. How can others do it for you?"~Vivekachoodamani

What is the use of arguing with religious believers? They think what they know as the ultimate truth. 

Those who indulge in the perverted argument from their own standpoint and opinion are not seeking the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. They just want to exhibit their accumulated knowledge, accumulated from here and there. They think what they know is the ultimate truth. 

They think whatever they propagate is the ultimate truth. The question never occurs to them, “Is what I know really the truth?

That is why Jesus said: ~ Do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. (Matthew -7:6) 

~ Jesus meant Knowledge of the Spirit(God) or Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana (pearls) should not be given to the ignorant populace (pigs). 

Spirituality is nothing to do with religion. Spirituality is based on the Spirit, the real God whereas religion is based on the false self within the false experience.:~Santthosh Kumaar

When the Self is not the form, then it is erroneous to relate the Self to time and space, because the Self is formless, timeless and spaceless existence.+

Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient I come and goes. (2.18)

Without Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana there the ignorance will not vanish. Without getting rid of ignorance wisdom will not dawn. All other paths do not lead finally to Gnana because they are egocentric.  

The path of truth or path of wisdom is the only means to liberation from experiencing the illusion as reality.  Only through Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, the waking entity realizes through knowledge its identity with the universal Soul or consciousness, the Self. 

What is ‘I’? How these three states are created? Who is its creator? Of what material is these three states are made? This is the way of that inquiry, analysis, and reasoning on the true base. Consciousness or Soul is neither the body, nor the matter, nor is the consciousness an aggregate of the senses;  consciousness is something different from these.

What is this “I”? The ‘I’ is the mind. The body and the world together are the mind. If the mind is there, then only you and your experience of the world are there. If the mind is not there, then you and your mind cease to exist.

The mind is present in the form of the universe’ the universe appears as a waking or dream(duality) and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality).

A deeper self-search reveals the fact that: ~ The ‘I’ merges with the Soul and becomes one with it.   The ‘I’ becomes ‘I-LESS-Soul. From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, the form, time, and space are one in essence.   

When the Self is not the form, then it is erroneous to relate the Self to time and space, because the Self is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The Self is not that which is born, lives, and dies within the unreal world. Afterlife is nothing to do with the Self because the self is not an individual. The self is the soul, which is present in the form of the spirit or consciousness.

When the Self is birthless, then how can one relate the Self to the birth, life, death, and the world, because the self is ever formless? 

When the Soul remains in its own awareness, then there is no ‘I’.  The ‘I’ is not permanent because it appears and disappears.  

The Self is not the ‘I’.  From the ultimate standpoint, the ‘I’ itself is an illusion. The ‘I’ is not limited to the form because the ‘I’ is present as the form, the time, and space. Without the ‘I’ form, time and space cease to exist. If form, time, and space cease to exist,  then the universe ceases to exist. If the universe ceases to exist, then the experience of birth, life, and death ceases to exist. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar